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I never liked gaming in high res. For me 22" 1680x1050 is the sweetspot. Anyways, I just ordered a ViewSonic VX2268WM 120Hz monitor and I was wondering what which video card I should use.

Would a 6950 2GB be overkill for that resolution (meaning the 2GB buffer). I know 120Hz requires a lot of GPU power but what about vRam?
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Vram required is same as 60Hz AFAIK.

120Hz with AMD cards requires a DP compatible display.

With nVidia DVI-D is required for 120Hz.

Edit:ViewSonic VX2268WM only have DVI-D.A nvidia card or DP to DVI-D(120Hz capable) adapter is required(They exist?).

For Bang for buck i recommended GTX 460 SLI .
A GTX 570 and SLI down the road for xtra performance.1280 MB is plenty for any 1680x1050 application.
Edited by pteek - 10/22/11 at 5:38am
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You could get by at that res with the 1GB model. The card is not overkill, you won't get 120 fps even at that res in the new games.
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Being someone that has a monitor at that resolution and the HD 6950 2GB, I have to say that, that combo seems to be pretty damn good together. Frame rates in BF3 beta were generally 60+ with mixed high/ultra settings. GPU usage seems to be maxed out with just about all the games I've been playing recently (settings maxed) which are Bad Company 2, Arkham Asylum, Just Cause 2, Dirt 3, and BF3 Beta. So I think the 2GB VRAM isn't wasted. I'll run some tests later and get back with you though.
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Originally Posted by pteek;15406400 
Vram required is same as 60Hz AFAIK.

120Hz with AMD cards requires a DP compatible display.

With nVidia DVI-D is required for 120Hz.

Edit:ViewSonic VX2268WM only have DVI-D.A nvidia card or DP to DVI-D(120Hz capable) adpter is required.

False.

AMD and ATI cards can also output 120hz through dual link DVI, be it DVI-D or DVI-I


You are confusing this with eyefinity. To output 3 monitors, you need to do it via DP on AMD.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by De-Zant;15406420 
False.

AMD and ATI cards can also output 120hz through dual link DVI, be it DVI-D or DVI-I


You are confusing this with eyefinity. To output 3 monitors, you need to do it via DP on AMD.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by pteek;15406490 
proof.gif

You're the one making the claim, you should provide the proof. That's how it should actually go. So, provide the proof.

I myself have run 120hz on my GPU. And I'm currently running 2560x1600, something that takes the same amount of bandwidth.

And I see / know a lot of people running AMD GPUs with 120hz monitors that don't have DP in them.

And I'm thinking that issues like this would mostly be occasional mess ups in drivers and such.

So provide the proof. What you are saying here would actually be that AMD cards don't support such high bandwidth through DVI, aka they wouldn't have dual link DVI, aka saying my current setup would not work.
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Originally Posted by De-Zant;15406523 
You're the one making the claim, you should provide the proof. That's how it should actually go. So, provide the proof.


I myself have run 120hz on my GPU. And I'm currently running 2560x1600, something that takes the same amount of bandwidth.

And I see / know a lot of people running AMD GPUs with 120hz monitors that don't have DP in them.

And I'm thinking that issues like this would mostly be occasional mess ups in drivers and such.


So provide the proof. What you are saying here would actually be that AMD cards don't support such high bandwidth through DVI, aka they wouldn't have dual link DVI, aka saying my current setup would not work.

Well...redface.gif, i was wrong.I remember reading in a review that amd doesn't support 120Hz over dual DVI.

My search reveals that it does.

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Originally Posted by Koslov;15406383 
I never liked gaming in high res. For me 22" 1680x1050 is the sweetspot. Anyways, I just ordered a ViewSonic VX2268WM 120Hz monitor and I was wondering what which video card I should use.

Would a 6950 2GB be overkill for that resolution (meaning the 2GB buffer). I know 120Hz requires a lot of GPU power but what about vRam?
I have the first version of that monitor (the VX2265WM) and I can tell you that concerning VRAM, you won't need anything more than 1500MB generally, but if you're going the AMD route, it might be better to get the 2GB version over the 1GB. I've played many games, and the most VRAM intensive ones are as followed (all based off of what MSI Afterburner tells me):
  • Battlefield 3 Beta (around 1400-1500MB)
  • AvP (Maxed out at 1536MB during my whole time playing it)
  • Crysis 2 (averages at 1500MB)
  • Metro 2033 (averages around 1200MB)
  • Crysis with mods - never played it without them (anywhere from 1000-1200MB)
  • Batman: Arkham Asylum (with 3D off, around 1000MB; with 3D on, around 1300MB)
  • DiRT 2 & 3 (usually stays around 800MB, but on some levels it can hit the 1000MB mark)
  • Battlefield: Bad Company 2 (usually around 700-800MB)
That's all I can remember, but I doubt I left any off worth mentioning. Now, if you're concerned about hitting an average frame rate of 120FPS or in that ballpark, 1 card will not do, I can tell you that much right now; you will need to SLI/CrossFire if you want to hit such a high average, but I'm sure you had an idea about that already. As far as playable frame rates are concerned, I've never had an issue about that with my GTX 480. The only exception was Metro 2033 in 3D (and maybe AvP, but it's been such a long time since playing that I can't remember); I was averaging about 30FPS, maybe less, and that's why I never finished it. With that being said, I had no problem in maxing out any of the other games.
 
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