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Size restrictions mainly. My goal is to make it smaller than the Cubitek Mini Tank but have better cooling and noise management.
    
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If you have the depth get an sr-1 or similar radiator. Notice on Gingerjohn's chart that at the lowest rpms (and quietest) the sr-1 was the best. Around 1500 rpm they were all performing close enough to each other that I bet you wouldn't see a noticeable difference.
Also, look at andrewmchugh's setup. While the cpu temp is a little high for my taste, it is much better than air cooled for the oc and 700 rpm fans probably can't be heard at normal distances.
I have 1100 rpm CM fans, push-pull on a GTX120 and two 1100 rpm fans on a 280SR-1 - with the case located under my desk - I just have a gentle hum, white noise affect .
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post #13 of 19
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You can bet I'm doing some note-taking.

Would push-pull be worthwhile for the low RPM (800-ish) fans? Without a heatsink on the CPU, radiator depth isn't really much of a concern on the upper chamber and if push-pull would be quiet and cool then it's worth considering.

What's the extent of what a single or dual rad can cool effectively? I'd like to get an i5 up to 4GHz and GPU up to 900MHz core, but I'm not sure what I can get away with... or if I can be patient enough for Ivy Bridge, which should be even better for SFF than Sandy Bridge has been.
    
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Would push-pull be worthwhile for the low RPM (800-ish) fans? Without a heatsink on the CPU, radiator depth isn't really much of a concern on the upper chamber and if push-pull would be quiet and cool then it's worth considering.

What's the extent of what a single or dual rad can cool effectively? I'd like to get an i5 up to 4GHz and GPU up to 900MHz core, but I'm not sure what I can get away with... or if I can be patient enough for Ivy Bridge, which should be even better for SFF than Sandy Bridge has been.
The rule of thumb is 120mm for each water block you have. Most OCN users seem to be 120 for each block plus 120 for a base. You could probably get away with doing a single GPU + CPU on a 240, depending on how hot you're planning to make each component. Considering you want a mild OC and medium GPU OC, you should be OK, but more is always better.

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post #15 of 19
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Then I'm curious if I can squeeze two 240 rads in there on the front of the case, or a 240 and two intakes. Or take a hint from this guy about SFF case design.

Can push-pull get more out of single and dual rads than push or pull alone?
    
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Yes. More fans = more pressure = more heat exchange
I can't say as to what performance boost you get vs. a single row of fans, though. I wouldn't stack the rads if you can avoid it. It reduces the effectiveness of the second rad.

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don't stack the rads.

XSPC EX series or Swiftech MCR QP series are solid, thin rads.

Push/Pull is better, but it's a small percentage increase so don't expect to be blown away. personally i prefer one fan with shroud just to avoid a dead spot on the radiator.
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Stacking rads might be the only way to fit two 240s without raising overall case height, but I'm positive that would require me morphing dimensions regardless (width to fit the rads overall length, and depth to fit the rads + fans + res & pump).

Looks like my choices are between the
  • RX 240: 125 x 58.5 x 286mm; 8fpi
  • MCR220: 128 x 34 x 284mm; 12fpi
  • SR1 240: 133 x 54 x 277mm; 9fpi

Of these, I'm currently leaning toward the SR1 because of its shorter overall length. If I wanted to fit two rads but not stack them, the RX would let me keep the same height overall height (I think); with the MCR and SR1 I'd have to raise the roof a bit to fit two side-by-side facing the front. I'd have to broaden the case regardless, which basically opens up use of mATX motherboards (case width would become 280+mm, so why not?).

Thoughts on the ideal setup for <1000rpm fans + rads? I can apparently pick between pull only, push only, push-pull, and push + shroud... then I have to decide whether they pull air out of or into the case.




Side Note: On the plus side, it looks like my original design is not without precedent; the dimensions are right alongside the Lian Li V350 series and Lian Li was [apparently] thinking along similar lines with their new PC-V353. Comparing theirs to mine, I had planned the top and sides to come off as one unit like most other SFF cases, with the mobo tray lifting straight up. Lian Li puts the mobo tray on the bottom and removable from the back, which I like. This both eliminates the need for a GPU separated via riser and allows me to raise the height of the bottom chamber enough to accommodate the width of a 240 rad laid horizontally on its edge.
    
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Thoughts on the ideal setup for <1000rpm fans + rads? I can apparently pick between pull only, push only, push-pull, and push + shroud... then I have to decide whether they pull air out of or into the case
    
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