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This is actually not that feasible considering the extremely cold temps in the Bering sea. Due to just this reason construction time will be increased a lot in time(Like said on the article 10-15 years time, that's more than twice the time it took to build the Channel Tunnel). Since you'll likely work about six months a year during feasible conditions. It also economically unfeasible because those two regions of the countries hardly have much population unlike the case in the U.K. and France where there's actually a lot of traffic flow to keep it economically feasible. Without a decent amount of traffic flow after building it like throwing money down the drain with a debt to pay. Therefore I think they should just stick with sea shipping or air. Imagine how much time it would take to pay the debt back if there aren't enough traffic flowing...
yeah the construction hurdles would be massive. 10-15 years alone to build it + god knows how long it'd take for it to catch on after construction. There'd have to be a lot of persuading for exporters to move their freight over land like this and taking a LOT longer than by air. I mean the talk of maglevs and all that would be great for the sightseeing tourist, but for freight you'd have to use the more conventional diesel engines...which are a lot slower considering the amount they'd have to pull to make each trip feasible.

In 15-20 years time would the amount of material that needs to hauled out of the continental US be there for this tunnel to be useful? It'd all be to the Asian side's interest to have this built being the world's factory and all.

That being said I'd love to see this being built. I'd love to see the doco which covers the technological and engineering challenges to see this to completion.
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I saw something like this on Science Channel. Ingenious way the figured how to run trains on two different track systems: use both axle/wheel sets.

I'm waiting for the 5k mph, vacuum, super mag-lev Atlantic train
I remember watching that episode too, is it the one about the Trans-Atlantic Tunnel u mean? To be honest that's even more impossible than the barely possible Bering Sea Tunnel. From what I heard it will take the world's steel supply annually to just build the tunnel it self.

Assume you're like unimaginably rich it practically impossible to allocate all the steel supply in the entire world for a year. Take in account that there will be a decent amount of traffic flow annually unlike the Bering Sea tunnel. It will also take forever to build with today's technology. Say that the Bering Sea Tunnel takes 10-15 years to build. The Trans-Atlantic Tunnel might take over a century to build and it wild weather patterns in the Atlantic Ocean means that you can not work on the construction everyday depending on weather condition.

Also think about it in a engineering stand point. We'll need to develop a strong material to counter the pressure from the Atlantic Ocean pressing down. I know you guys might say nano tube is the solution but that material is not widely available if you know what I mean. Unlike steel there's a large amount of it.

Sorry, am I talking a bit overboard? I just always like to discuss engineering things like these,
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yeah the construction hurdles would be massive. 10-15 years alone to build it + god knows how long it'd take for it to catch on after construction. There'd have to be a lot of persuading for exporters to move their freight over land like this and taking a LOT longer than by air. I mean the talk of maglevs and all that would be great for the sightseeing tourist, but for freight you'd have to use the more conventional diesel engines...which are a lot slower considering the amount they'd have to pull to make each trip feasible.

In 15-20 years time would the amount of material that needs to hauled out of the continental US be there for this tunnel to be useful? It'd all be to the Asian side's interest to have this built being the world's factory and all.

That being said I'd love to see this being built. I'd love to see the doco which covers the technological and engineering challenges to see this to completion.
The technology would most likely come from Germany or Japan. The Chinese would build it since they have the man power and tech skills to do it.

It takes Americans eons to get anything done nowadays, too much red tape too much regulation. China would probably finish it within 8 years, working 24/7 around the clock.

Frankly the Asian side would be done in a couple years, we'll have to wait at least 10 years for the American side to jump through all the hoops.
 
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They should be fine as long as they avoid creepers while digging.
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I'm waiting for the 5k mph, vacuum, super mag-lev Atlantic train
I don't think that's going to happen in our life time
    
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i just charted the generic path of this proposed rail line starting from Anchorage and ending in Tynda, Russia (which is one of the small cities in the middle of nowhere that links to the trans siberian railroad). Holy crap thats alot of rail that they need to lay.

Here's a pic of it.
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i just charted the generic path of this proposed rail line starting from Anchorage and ending in Tynda, Russia (which is one of the small cities in the middle of nowhere that links to the trans siberian railroad). Holy crap thats alot of rail that they need to lay.

Here's a pic of it.
Yep ~6000kms
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conspiracy
I never asked for this lol
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Yep ~6000kms
It's 6000 KM from LA to Moscow. Do you really think there are no train tracks in the US, Canada and Russia. They will have to build 10-50 KM (plus 104 KM for the tunnel) extra track at the most.
    
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I don't understand.... Alaska and that part of Russia have almost no people, why do this?
If its wasteful spending the US is proudly behind it. Will go nice with our zero population town with a fully staffed post office
    
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