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Originally Posted by andrews2547 View Post
It's 6000 KM from LA to Moscow. Do you really think there are no train tracks in the US, Canada and Russia. They will have to build 10-50 KM (plus 104 KM for the tunnel) extra track at the most.
Seriously... read the article. It says RIGHT there, 6000kms !

Why doesn't anyone read on OCN these days ??
post #92 of 102
To be an all weather connection and meet US environmental impact I would expect the US would have to put its 2,000 km of rail subsurface to the tunnel mouth. A mostly underground habitat, With family accommodation?, possibly with a Vegas entertainment connection would keep workers productive.

The trouble with trains is they favor track side transport, and the government subsidizes highways for strategic reasons.
Given property values the day of factory direct spur lines seems long over.
The trouble with high speed trains is they are a large city to large city indulgence, the smaller the country and distance the better.
People still have to get to the terminals to use them and double tracking should be required to avoid any collision possibilities.

The road net will not vanish any time soon, too much is invested "off track way" and trains in the US mostly lose money on passenger service (local pick ups can add too much time).

Like buses, unless timing is Convenient and flexible, difficult to find sufficient passengers.

Anyone see new track laying figures for us? or abandoned routes?
post #93 of 102
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Originally Posted by andrews2547 View Post
It's 6000 KM from LA to Moscow. Do you really think there are no train tracks in the US, Canada and Russia. They will have to build 10-50 KM (plus 104 KM for the tunnel) extra track at the most.
Yes...there are NO rail ways there...look it up. In 2005 there was a proposed project to build a rail way from the US 48 across canada to Alaska, but it never made it out the fiesibility study. I don't know about the Russian side...but there are no trains to alaska

These people are trying to get approval and support for this. They will be using what ever number looks the best so I am sure that 6000km includes existing track. Plus it is MUCH farther than 6000km from LA to Moscow just by air...so I am guessing it would have to include existing track if the trip is taking a detour up to Alaska first.
Edited by Vagrant Storm - 10/23/11 at 9:17am
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I don't understand.... Alaska and that part of Russia have almost no people, why do this?
Eastern Siberia.

And actually, there are pockets of people spread throughout Siberia. A number of cities in fact.

I guess it would work as a trade route, as well as allowing a few more options for tourism. I believe you can take trains to Eastern Europe from Siberia and back.
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post #95 of 102
just one more way to connect diverse populations to mainstream civilization.

and yes, there is a better cost to shipping freight over the rail system compaired to truck, or air.... one of the main factors is a modern freight engine can travel approx. 500 miles to a single gallon of fuel... the cost I belive is much higher over the road as well as air travel, though air freight travels faster... rail is still more cost effective
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Never happen. US is not building any more infrastructure for a very long time.
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Originally Posted by Xenthos View Post
Seriously... read the article. It says RIGHT there, 6000kms !

Why doesn't anyone read on OCN these days ??
Because when it comes to reading their reading skills only goes as far as the headlines.

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Never happen. US is not building any more infrastructure for a very long time.
Not because we don't want to, we can't afford it.
 
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this seems like a better idea

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this seems like a better idea

New Boeing 7777777

There are train tracks in Alaska, but likely not very close to the Bering straight. Furthermore, there may not be tracks directly connecting the ones in AK to the lower 48.

And remember, this would very like be for FREIGHT ONLY. Passenger service would be ridiculous, if there isn't a high speed rail service already between more populated areas such as LA to NY, what would make you think that they would put one in to go to Siberia of all places?

Freight, on the other hand, would make much more sense. Especially if its used for lumber and oil. (though perhaps a pipeline would be much better for oil...)

All things considered though, it will be a long time before this becomes anything serious, no one has money to spend on a project like this with this economy.
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New Boeing 7777777

There are train tracks in Alaska, but likely not very close to the Bering straight. Furthermore, there may not be tracks directly connecting the ones in AK to the lower 48.

And remember, this would very like be for FREIGHT ONLY. Passenger service would be ridiculous, if there isn't a high speed rail service already between more populated areas such as LA to NY, what would make you think that they would put one in to go to Siberia of all places?

Freight, on the other hand, would make much more sense. Especially if its used for lumber and oil. (though perhaps a pipeline would be much better for oil...)

All things considered though, it will be a long time before this becomes anything serious, no one has money to spend on a project like this with this economy.
That's a photoshopped russian plane btw -.- aka the antonov an-225 i think
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