Overclock.net › Forums › AMD › AMD CPUs › i5 2500K to FX 4100 - Smart or Ludicrous?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

i5 2500K to FX 4100 - Smart or Ludicrous? - Page 6

post #51 of 135
I say wait for the next batch of bulldozer cpus. Better TDP so you also save energy
Rabasu i7-3770K
(13 items)
 
Rabasu FX6100
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3770K ECS H77H2-M3 MSI RX 580 Armor 8GB OC 2x8GB Kingston HyperX Blu 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Seagate 1TB Seagate 1TB Sony DVDRW stock 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Windows 7 x64 BenQ E2220 1080p Seasonic M12II Evo 620W Coolermaster Elite 430 
Mouse
A4tech X7 710BH 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX 6100 4.0 Ghz 6-core Asus M5A78L-MLX3 AM3+ Powercolor HD7730 1GB DDR5 16GB (2x8GB) Corsair Vengeance LP 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Seagate 1TB Seagate 1TB Sony DVDRW CoolerMaster Hyper212+ with 2x140mm Deepcool UF140 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Windows 7 x64 / Mint x64 BenQ E2220 1080p Aerocool Strike-X 500watts CoolerMaster Elite 430 
Mouse
A4tech X7 710BH 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
A8 7410 2.5Ghz Radeon R5 M335 2GB 4GB DDR3L 1 TB HDD 
OSCase
Windows 8.1 Dell Inspiron 5455 
  hide details  
Reply
Rabasu i7-3770K
(13 items)
 
Rabasu FX6100
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3770K ECS H77H2-M3 MSI RX 580 Armor 8GB OC 2x8GB Kingston HyperX Blu 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Seagate 1TB Seagate 1TB Sony DVDRW stock 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Windows 7 x64 BenQ E2220 1080p Seasonic M12II Evo 620W Coolermaster Elite 430 
Mouse
A4tech X7 710BH 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX 6100 4.0 Ghz 6-core Asus M5A78L-MLX3 AM3+ Powercolor HD7730 1GB DDR5 16GB (2x8GB) Corsair Vengeance LP 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Seagate 1TB Seagate 1TB Sony DVDRW CoolerMaster Hyper212+ with 2x140mm Deepcool UF140 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Windows 7 x64 / Mint x64 BenQ E2220 1080p Aerocool Strike-X 500watts CoolerMaster Elite 430 
Mouse
A4tech X7 710BH 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
A8 7410 2.5Ghz Radeon R5 M335 2GB 4GB DDR3L 1 TB HDD 
OSCase
Windows 8.1 Dell Inspiron 5455 
  hide details  
Reply
post #52 of 135
What evidence do you have that there is a gpu bottlneck?? 1 6850 wont be bottlnecked for even an athlon x2... The fps difference between a 4100 and a 2500k is not noticable...I have personally compared an athlon x3 with an i7 2600k with 1 6850 and the difference is negligable (within 5%). Unless your a fraps whore, you wont notice a difference. Ofcourse with two 6850s, the story changes but we are dealing with just ONE...


Quote:
Originally Posted by Schmuckley View Post
no..no noo..you WILL notice a serious performance decrease..2 years of "R & D"
and amd has handed a big turd to the public
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX 8150 - 4.90 ghz  GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD7 (Rev. 1.1) XFX 6990 + Accelero Twin Turbo 6990 cooler 24/7... 8192 MB - OC 1988 9-9-9-24-1T Team Xtreem 
Hard DriveOSPowerCase
240 GB Revodrive 3 X2 Windows 7 SP1 1000 W OCZ ZX series - 80 Gold HAF 932 - Windy Tunnel - 22 Fans 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX 8150 - 4.90 ghz  GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD7 (Rev. 1.1) XFX 6990 + Accelero Twin Turbo 6990 cooler 24/7... 8192 MB - OC 1988 9-9-9-24-1T Team Xtreem 
Hard DriveOSPowerCase
240 GB Revodrive 3 X2 Windows 7 SP1 1000 W OCZ ZX series - 80 Gold HAF 932 - Windy Tunnel - 22 Fans 
  hide details  
Reply
post #53 of 135
i don't know, poly. i'd like to believe that, but here i'm seeing 20-30 FPS difference at 1080p vs the 2500k, and that's with the FX-8150, same stock clock as the FX-4100. that's more like a 20% difference.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...x,3043-20.html
Edited by nicodemus - 10/24/11 at 10:24am
Galahad
(21 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Ryzen 5 1600X (4 GHz@1.35v) ASRock AB350M Pro4 Sapphire Radeon PULSE RX 570 ITXI G.SKILL TridentZ 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Samsung 840 EVO Samsung 850 EVO XSPC Raystorm Pro XSPC EX & AX 240 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Swiftech MCP35X (pwm) Gentle Typhoon 2150 Distilled + Kill Coil MCP35X-Res 
OSOSMonitorKeyboard
Antergos Linux W10 LG 27UD69P Ergodox 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Silverstone ST60F-P + PP05 Fractal Design Node 804 Razer Naga Hex v2 AKG K553 Pro 
Other
Razer Orbweaver Chroma 
  hide details  
Reply
Galahad
(21 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Ryzen 5 1600X (4 GHz@1.35v) ASRock AB350M Pro4 Sapphire Radeon PULSE RX 570 ITXI G.SKILL TridentZ 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Samsung 840 EVO Samsung 850 EVO XSPC Raystorm Pro XSPC EX & AX 240 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Swiftech MCP35X (pwm) Gentle Typhoon 2150 Distilled + Kill Coil MCP35X-Res 
OSOSMonitorKeyboard
Antergos Linux W10 LG 27UD69P Ergodox 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Silverstone ST60F-P + PP05 Fractal Design Node 804 Razer Naga Hex v2 AKG K553 Pro 
Other
Razer Orbweaver Chroma 
  hide details  
Reply
post #54 of 135
Quote:
Originally Posted by nicodemus View Post
i don't know, poly. i'd like to believe that, but here i'm seeing 20-30 FPS difference at 1080p vs the 2500k, and that's with the FX-8150, same stock clock as the FX-4100. that's more like a 20% difference.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...x,3043-20.html
I think what he's trying to say is that at GPU-limited settings (e.g. 1080P with full AA and high details), the FX4100 will give about the same FPS as a 2500K.

But that's really a meaningless argument, since even a Core i3 or even Athlon II X2 will give similar FPS at such GPU-limited settings.

Once the situation becomes more CPU-limited, an FX4100 gets destroyed by a 2500K.
5 GHz SFF Box
(18 items)
 
   
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7-2700K @ 5.0 GHz, 1.38V Asus Maximus IV GENE Asus GTX 670 DC II 4x4GB Samsung 30nm @ DDR3-2133 9-9-9-21 1.5V 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Plextor M3 SSD WD Velociraptor 500GB WD Caviar Black 1TB WD Caviar Green 2TB 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Thermalright HR-02 (GT AP-15 Push/Pull) Windows 7 Pro x64 LG 27" 2560x1440 S-IPS (Calibrated with Eye-One) CM Quickfire Rapid 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Seasonic X-750 Silverstone SG09 Logitech MX518 Steelseries QcK 
Audio
Asus Xonar DX + Shure SRH840 
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
Core i5-3570K Gigabyte H61N-USB3 Mini-ITX 2x4GB Samsung 30nm DDR3 Samsung 830 128GB SSD 
Hard DriveOSPowerCase
WD Scorpio Blue 500GB Win 7 Pro x64 Antec 90W DC-DC/Delta power brick Antec ISK 110 
  hide details  
Reply
5 GHz SFF Box
(18 items)
 
   
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7-2700K @ 5.0 GHz, 1.38V Asus Maximus IV GENE Asus GTX 670 DC II 4x4GB Samsung 30nm @ DDR3-2133 9-9-9-21 1.5V 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Plextor M3 SSD WD Velociraptor 500GB WD Caviar Black 1TB WD Caviar Green 2TB 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Thermalright HR-02 (GT AP-15 Push/Pull) Windows 7 Pro x64 LG 27" 2560x1440 S-IPS (Calibrated with Eye-One) CM Quickfire Rapid 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Seasonic X-750 Silverstone SG09 Logitech MX518 Steelseries QcK 
Audio
Asus Xonar DX + Shure SRH840 
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
Core i5-3570K Gigabyte H61N-USB3 Mini-ITX 2x4GB Samsung 30nm DDR3 Samsung 830 128GB SSD 
Hard DriveOSPowerCase
WD Scorpio Blue 500GB Win 7 Pro x64 Antec 90W DC-DC/Delta power brick Antec ISK 110 
  hide details  
Reply
post #55 of 135
If you consider transaction costs of shipped, risk, and depreciation, I don't think it is worth it.
Once again...
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 [4.28GHz, HT] Asus P6T + Broadcom NetXtreme II VisionTek HD5850 [900/1200] + Galaxy GT240 2x4GB G.Skill Ripjaw X [1632 MHz] 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Intel X25-M 160GB + 3xRAID0 500GB 7200.12 Window 7 Pro 64 Acer H243H + Samsung 226BW XARMOR-U9BL  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Antec Truepower New 750W Li Lian PC-V2100 [10x120mm fans] Logitech G9 X-Trac Pro 
  hide details  
Reply
Once again...
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 [4.28GHz, HT] Asus P6T + Broadcom NetXtreme II VisionTek HD5850 [900/1200] + Galaxy GT240 2x4GB G.Skill Ripjaw X [1632 MHz] 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Intel X25-M 160GB + 3xRAID0 500GB 7200.12 Window 7 Pro 64 Acer H243H + Samsung 226BW XARMOR-U9BL  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Antec Truepower New 750W Li Lian PC-V2100 [10x120mm fans] Logitech G9 X-Trac Pro 
  hide details  
Reply
post #56 of 135
Quote:
Originally Posted by 996gt2 View Post
I think what he's trying to say is that at GPU-limited settings (e.g. 1080P with full AA and high details), the FX4100 will give about the same FPS as a 2500K.

But that's really a meaningless argument, since even a Core i3 or even Athlon II X2 will give similar FPS at such GPU-limited settings.

Once the situation becomes more CPU-limited, an FX4100 gets destroyed by a 2500K.
right, but again, "about the same" is looking like about 20% less according to the benchmarks out there right now, and for the purposes of the OP concern (gaming), CPU limited situations aren't a relevant, real world issue.

i think it may also be worth noting that the FX-4100 is about 28% cheaper than the microcenter 2500k, and about 40% cheaper than the newegg 2500k. so maybe it is worth it for gaming in general (if the OP didn't already own a 2500k.)

but then of course people say, well, why not buy a PII x4? =( tough situation for AMD. i want to like this chip, but they make it so difficult.
Galahad
(21 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Ryzen 5 1600X (4 GHz@1.35v) ASRock AB350M Pro4 Sapphire Radeon PULSE RX 570 ITXI G.SKILL TridentZ 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Samsung 840 EVO Samsung 850 EVO XSPC Raystorm Pro XSPC EX & AX 240 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Swiftech MCP35X (pwm) Gentle Typhoon 2150 Distilled + Kill Coil MCP35X-Res 
OSOSMonitorKeyboard
Antergos Linux W10 LG 27UD69P Ergodox 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Silverstone ST60F-P + PP05 Fractal Design Node 804 Razer Naga Hex v2 AKG K553 Pro 
Other
Razer Orbweaver Chroma 
  hide details  
Reply
Galahad
(21 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Ryzen 5 1600X (4 GHz@1.35v) ASRock AB350M Pro4 Sapphire Radeon PULSE RX 570 ITXI G.SKILL TridentZ 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Samsung 840 EVO Samsung 850 EVO XSPC Raystorm Pro XSPC EX & AX 240 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Swiftech MCP35X (pwm) Gentle Typhoon 2150 Distilled + Kill Coil MCP35X-Res 
OSOSMonitorKeyboard
Antergos Linux W10 LG 27UD69P Ergodox 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Silverstone ST60F-P + PP05 Fractal Design Node 804 Razer Naga Hex v2 AKG K553 Pro 
Other
Razer Orbweaver Chroma 
  hide details  
Reply
post #57 of 135
Its like this:
I have one of these:

Intel 2500k

And would like to trade for one of these.

AMD 4xxx
BullDriver
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-8350 Vishera 4.0GHz Asus 990FX Sabertooth MSI N465GTX 8gb Gskill Sniper 1600/9.9.9.25 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
64Gb Crucial SSD(os) +1tb Baracuda SataIII Asus OEM SATA DVD RW x64 Windows 7 Home Premium 25" Hanns G 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Microsoft Flatty Tethered RocketFish 550w Modular Corsair 600t Logitech MX Revolution 
  hide details  
Reply
BullDriver
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-8350 Vishera 4.0GHz Asus 990FX Sabertooth MSI N465GTX 8gb Gskill Sniper 1600/9.9.9.25 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
64Gb Crucial SSD(os) +1tb Baracuda SataIII Asus OEM SATA DVD RW x64 Windows 7 Home Premium 25" Hanns G 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Microsoft Flatty Tethered RocketFish 550w Modular Corsair 600t Logitech MX Revolution 
  hide details  
Reply
post #58 of 135
Quote:
Originally Posted by cook View Post
Its like this:
I have one of these:

Intel 2500k

And would like to trade for one of these.

AMD 4xxx
I lol'd.

Thanks for making my day better! xD
 
Dell UltraSharp U2412M IPS Panel
Dell UltraSharp U2412M
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Apple A7 Cyclone x64 Chip @ 1.3Ghz Apple PowerVR G6430 1GB DDR3 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
16GB Internal Storage Passive iOS 7.0.3 4.0" 1136x640 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
On-Screen 1560mAH Battery Apple iPhone 5S Space Grey Touch ID Finger Print Scanner 
AudioOtherOther
3.5mm Jack Nano SIM Lightning Connector 
  hide details  
Reply
 
Dell UltraSharp U2412M IPS Panel
Dell UltraSharp U2412M
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Apple A7 Cyclone x64 Chip @ 1.3Ghz Apple PowerVR G6430 1GB DDR3 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
16GB Internal Storage Passive iOS 7.0.3 4.0" 1136x640 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
On-Screen 1560mAH Battery Apple iPhone 5S Space Grey Touch ID Finger Print Scanner 
AudioOtherOther
3.5mm Jack Nano SIM Lightning Connector 
  hide details  
Reply
post #59 of 135
Quote:
Originally Posted by cook View Post
......
that was almost funny !


now, how about making an actually useful post next time ? ie, like one with numbers, graphs, benchmarks and whatnot ?
Berserker
(20 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Phenom II 965 BE Gigabyte 990FXA-D3 Sapphire HD 7970 OC Sapphire HD 7970 OC 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Kingston HyperX Corsair F60 SSD Seagate Barracuda LG DVD-RW 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Thermaltake Contac 29 Cpu Cooler - 12 cm fan 3 x 24 cm, 1 x 14 cm Case fans on Haf X  Win 7 64 Ultimate, Win Xp 32 pro, Ubuntu 11.04 28 Inch Viewsonic vx2835vm 16:10 - 1920x1200 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
2 x 22 Inch Samsung 1680x1050 32 inch LG 32LW5500 3D TV (occasionally) Logitech 750 Watts Inwin Commander PSU 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Coolermaster Haf X Ideazon Razor Gaming Mouse Thermaltake M-Audio Fast Track Pro USB 
  hide details  
Reply
Berserker
(20 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Phenom II 965 BE Gigabyte 990FXA-D3 Sapphire HD 7970 OC Sapphire HD 7970 OC 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Kingston HyperX Corsair F60 SSD Seagate Barracuda LG DVD-RW 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Thermaltake Contac 29 Cpu Cooler - 12 cm fan 3 x 24 cm, 1 x 14 cm Case fans on Haf X  Win 7 64 Ultimate, Win Xp 32 pro, Ubuntu 11.04 28 Inch Viewsonic vx2835vm 16:10 - 1920x1200 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
2 x 22 Inch Samsung 1680x1050 32 inch LG 32LW5500 3D TV (occasionally) Logitech 750 Watts Inwin Commander PSU 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Coolermaster Haf X Ideazon Razor Gaming Mouse Thermaltake M-Audio Fast Track Pro USB 
  hide details  
Reply
post #60 of 135
Quote:
Originally Posted by unity100 View Post
that was almost funny !


now, how about making an actually useful post next time ? ie, like one with numbers, graphs, benchmarks and whatnot ?
I don't think that its needed. Everyone knows that it sucks.
Sandy love
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
2500K 4.5GHz 1.32V Asus P8P67 PRO 3.0 Sapphire 5850 Hd 900/1250 Mushkin Blackline 2x4GB 1.35V 
Hard DriveOptical DrivePowerCase
Crucial M4 64Gb(boot), Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB LG Corsair TX850W V2 Haf 932 Advanced 
  hide details  
Reply
Sandy love
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
2500K 4.5GHz 1.32V Asus P8P67 PRO 3.0 Sapphire 5850 Hd 900/1250 Mushkin Blackline 2x4GB 1.35V 
Hard DriveOptical DrivePowerCase
Crucial M4 64Gb(boot), Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB LG Corsair TX850W V2 Haf 932 Advanced 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: AMD CPUs
Overclock.net › Forums › AMD › AMD CPUs › i5 2500K to FX 4100 - Smart or Ludicrous?