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Sure, no problem.
i assume the graph comes from 3 months into future, from a time point where the proper instruction optimizations for windows oses and the benchmark programs are out .....

or, is it something that was slapped with utter lack of knowledge of how technology works and what optimization in software is ?

dont answer. i know the answer - it is.

.............

it is appalling to me that people who dabble in cpus and whatnot can be as stagnant minded and visionless as a hick in hillbilly land - 'whatever it is NOW, it is forever'.

yes.
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Since you're from the future, what news of bulldozer new found performance have you brought us?
    
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yes. and who is that 'everyone' and what does 'suck' mean. suck, for what ?
Everyone= all of us who eagerly awaited BD launch, and on the day of sat in disbelief that it could not even match our 3 year old PHII's.

Suck= Why in the world would you release a multi-threaded monster that has terrible at single threaded performance (85% of all current programs are single threaded), sure the future is multi, but we are not there yet.

Suck= 450w power draw under load. If you have a modest gpu you will already be looking at a 800w+ psu, an additional upgrade cost.

Suck= $280.00 for the i5's closest competitor, Still not beating it, i5 2500k= $219.00

Suck Bottom line= Costs more, Less performance, More Power required.
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Everyone= all of us who eagerly awaited BD launch, and on the day of sat in disbelief that it could not even match our 3 year old PHII's.

Suck= Why in the world would you release a multi-threaded monster that has terrible at single threaded performance (85% of all current programs are single threaded), sure the future is multi, but we are not there yet.

Suck= 450w power draw under load. If you have a modest gpu you will already be looking at a 800w+ psu, an additional upgrade cost.

Suck= $280.00 for the i5's closest competitor, Still not beating it, i5 2500k= $219.00

Suck Bottom line= Costs more, Less performance, More Power required.
this^=how i,and probably a LOT of other people feel..now..how to get the RAM right on this fx4100 so i can clock the snot out of it before i have to rip it out so i can ship it.. ::..because IT SUCKS
 
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I wouldn't do it. That's a pretty big downgrade and the 2500K is an awesome gaming chip already. The 2500K is even faster than the FX-8150 in many cases. The FX-4100 has half the cores of an FX-8150 so you do the math. Plus from what I've seen a Phenom II X4 is faster most of the time than the FX-4100 making it a pretty lousy buy. The 2500K is such a solid CPU that I wouldn't bother with that big of a downgrade, it's not worth it. Downgrading to the FX-4100 wouldn't be ludicrous, it would be lunacy.
Edited by Ben the OCer - 10/24/11 at 11:52am
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not YOU again ! you are everywhere. i am fearing that if i ever pop the amd cpu in my rig to do anything, you will pop out right under, to troll for intel.

the news from the future is as the news from the past - hardware gets parabolically better as optimized instructions are accommodated by benchmark programs and oses.

it has never been different, it will never be different in future.

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Everyone= all of us who eagerly awaited BD launch, and on the day of sat in disbelief that it could not even match our 3 year old PHII's.
people who think that a new TECHNOLOGY would be mature at 0-day you mean ....

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Suck= Why in the world would you release a multi-threaded monster that has terrible at single threaded performance (85% of all current programs are single threaded), sure the future is multi, but we are not there yet.
and what single threaded program requires cpu power beyond what we already had available in the market ?

whichever hard/cpu consuming task is being done, its done by more than one cores at this time and age.

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Suck= 450w power draw under load. If you have a modest gpu you will already be looking at a 800w+ psu, an additional upgrade cost.
naturally this reaction is understandable, since it requires some engineering knowledge.

everything in that regard would be better as the factories get better in the process of cutting the chip. it takes time.

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Suck= $280.00 for the i5's closest competitor, Still not beating it, i5 2500k= $219.00
optimizations. software. support. time.

cannot be emphasized more.

...............

half of your woes depend on software or hardware first. if amd tried to push for software support before releasing hardware, it would come very slow. but if it released before software support, this would have happened.

and, this had happened.

it isnt any different from the past times in which new cpu technologies that required support from software was released. the days of the pure gigahertz releases giving max performance on 0-day is past in 1990s now.
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Since you're from the future, what news of bulldozer new found performance have you brought us?
Has John Titor returned?
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Ludicrous.
   
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Looks at sig rig....wanna trade?

It's not like a sports car or muscle car that gets impractical as the years go by. No such thing as too much where pcs are concerned. Having 'too much for your needs' now just means it'll serve those needs longer. Also, from what I've read, AMD rigs use more power. I know mine was raping my meter until I went back to stock and undervolted a bit this summer.
     
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