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post #31 of 79
What really took me for a loop, was when the bulldozer x4 not only lost to the Phenom II clock for clock, it also lost to the Phenom I clock for clock.

I mean, where do you go after that? It's probably slower than sledgehammer clock for clock core for core.
    
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post #32 of 79
F@H doesn't use 128bit or 256bit only 32/64bit SSE

and as everyone knows Bulldozer is aimed at 128/256bit FMA+XOP+AVX
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post #33 of 79
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considering it is a 1st gen product, based on an architecture designed from the ground up (something intel hasn't done since netburst), I think it is a pretty good first shot.
Maybe so but they put it on the market

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post #34 of 79
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What really took me for a loop, was when the bulldozer x4 not only lost to the Phenom II clock for clock, it also lost to the Phenom I clock for clock.

I mean, where do you go after that? It's probably slower than sledgehammer clock for clock core for core.
I still have the Phenom X4 9950 and at 2.6 GHz it was as fast as a 3.6 GHz FX 4100. I kid you not.
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post #35 of 79
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It would be idiotic for AMD to waste R&D money on "tweaking" for F@H. F@H users are such a small fraction of computer users.
lol, you don't physically "tweak" the architecture just for one program. Its not possible.
We're talking at optimizing architecture, which would improve general performance.
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post #36 of 79
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What really took me for a loop, was when the bulldozer x4 not only lost to the Phenom II clock for clock, it also lost to the Phenom I clock for clock.

I mean, where do you go after that? It's probably slower than sledgehammer clock for clock core for core.
Phenom I cores and Phenom II cores are nearly identical architechture wise.

The only reason PhII is faster is because:

1. 45nm process allowed them to achieve much higher clocks
2. since the CPU cores were smaller, it left room for more cache, which was the main reason PhI was not the best performer at the time.

Logically, one can deduce that BD would be slower than Phenom 1 at identical clocks....

luckilly no one runs their Zambezi based processors at anywhere close to phenom 1 (~1.9-3GHz)
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post #37 of 79
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luckilly no one runs their Zambezi based processors at anywhere close to phenom 1 (~1.9-3GHz)
Unless it's BSOD at stock clocks.
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post #38 of 79
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Unless it's BSOD at stock clocks.


I was one of the stupid ones that bought an am3+ board.
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post #39 of 79
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Unless it's BSOD at stock clocks.

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I was one of the stupid ones that bought an am3+ board.
Piledriver might work with our current motherboards.
So not all is lost I think.
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