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Originally Posted by matrices;15434639 
That's cool for non-reference cards but worthless for squirrel cage fan designs where the heat needs to exhaust through the rear. I can't imagine someone putting two non-reference GPUs into an mATX case; the heat would cause system crash.

There are quite a few guys stacking SLI'd MSI Twin Frozr cards without issues. Many of them post here. Hell, open up a picture-inquiry topic in the Air Cooling and/or Graphics Cards subforums. Plenty of cases that fit mATX boards have great airflow (Fractal, Lian Li, etc.).

A few seconds on google for some SLI non-reference stackage:

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post #22 of 45
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Originally Posted by goldbranch;15495001 
Another mATX P67 motherboard that supports x8/x8 SLI which I'm also using:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131707

and thats my board too....

and I'm SLI-ing with sound card between cards...
no problemo!
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I don't know how the heck you guys push high-end SLI setups in mATX without space in between the cards (i.e. on a Gene-Z for example). My load temps are already in the high 80s with plenty of space below the solo card.. can't imagine what your top cards must be going through.
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and thats my board too....

and I'm SLI-ing with sound card between cards...
no problemo!

Nice, but how will you manage to fit another sound card in? Are you using waterblocks for your SLI setup?
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I don't know how the heck you guys push high-end SLI setups in mATX without space in between the cards (i.e. on a Gene-Z for example). My load temps are already in the high 80s with plenty of space below the solo card.. can't imagine what your top cards must be going through.

Non-ref coolers plus a strong fan on the side panel would help. My top Hawk stays below 75C and 60C for my bottom Hawk during long gaming sessions with vsync on. They go up 5-8C warmer with vsync off though.
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post #25 of 45
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Originally Posted by goldbranch;15523425 
Nice, but how will you manage to fit another sound card in? Are you using waterblocks for your SLI setup?



Non-ref coolers plus a strong fan on the side panel would help. My top Hawk stays below 75C and 60C for my bottom Hawk during long gaming sessions with vsync on. They go up 5-8C warmer with vsync off though.

Wouldn't non-ref coolers push hot air from the bottom card into the case and recycle it to the top card? I would think rear-firing reference coolers would be better for these applications, though I've no experience yet.
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Originally Posted by friend'scatdied;15523067 
I don't know how the heck you guys push high-end SLI setups in mATX without space in between the cards (i.e. on a Gene-Z for example). My load temps are already in the high 80s with plenty of space below the solo card.. can't imagine what your top cards must be going through.

Off topic, but relevant to the quoted post...

I'm pushing high-end SLi on an EATX mobo and I don't even have spacing between my cards. Load temps never go above 68c. Just sayin...

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post #27 of 45
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Originally Posted by friend'scatdied;15523500 
Wouldn't non-ref coolers push hot air from the bottom card into the case and recycle it to the top card? I would think rear-firing reference coolers would be better for these applications, though I've no experience yet.

Heatsink is more important than air flow, I guess. And I did say a strong fan blowing directly from the side panel would help. thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by goldbranch;15524307 
Heatsink is more important than air flow, I guess. And I did say a strong fan blowing directly from the side panel would help. thumb.gif

Well recent 500-series heatsink iterations have the vapor plate which should be fantastic.

I'm just saying with regards to SLI with cramped slots, recommending non-reference case-exhausting coolers seems to be exactly the opposite of what many people suggest.confused.gif I can understand in eATX or regular ATX where airflow is hardly ever an issue, but small-volume mATX cases are an entirely different story in this regard.

Then again I suppose your temps speak for themselves. My single 580 gets to 88'C under load (auto, no custom fan profile).
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Originally Posted by friend'scatdied;15526047 
Well recent 500-series heatsink iterations have the vapor plate which should be fantastic.

I'm just saying with regards to SLI with cramped slots, recommending non-reference case-exhausting coolers seems to be exactly the opposite of what many people suggest.confused.gif I can understand in eATX or regular ATX where airflow is hardly ever an issue, but small-volume mATX cases are an entirely different story in this regard.

Then again I suppose your temps speak for themselves. My single 580 gets to 88'C under load (auto, no custom fan profile).

I used to have two 470s, one is MSI Twin Frozr II and another one is Gigabyte SOC (Windforce x3). Although with less fans, the MSI managed to cool 5-8C better than the Gigabyte under same load (at 800/2000, 80% fan) and in same single card setup. That made me believe a bigger heatsink would benefit more than just air flow. Anyway, back to the topic, I have 7 case fans installed: 2 front, 1 bottom and 1 side intakes and 2 top, 1 rear exhausts. So air flow might not be a problem for me. But as I said, if I leave vsync off and let the cards run at maximum usage, the top card will reach 82-83C and 62-63C for the bottom card.

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Then again I suppose your temps speak for themselves. My single 580 gets to 88'C under load (auto, no custom fan profile)

No wonder why. I leave my cards at 60-70% fan though.
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Love my mATX SLI rig tongue.gif

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