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But the i7 970 has 12 threads. Don't you only need to use linux if you need to trick it into thinking it has 12 threads so you can get bigbigadv?
You can do it either way. VMware player won't let you virtualize 12-cores last time I used it, so you can either:

1) Do a 4/8-core VM in VMplayer, trick Linux into thinking acting like 12, the VM will then load however many cores you actually have.
2) Do a 12-core VM in VirtualBox, Linux already knows there's 12 cores, and F@H will use 12 cores.

I plan on testing out the PPD difference between the two methods in the future, but from a virtualization standpoint, if you have 12-cores, you might as well make the VM 12 core natively.
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but what I was checking was, do we need to use linux still in order to get those units.
I do understand that native linux would yield better results than a virtual box, and also that linux is much better than windows ppd on normal bigadv.
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post #193 of 306
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but what I was checking was, do we need to use linux still in order to get those units.
I do understand that native linux would yield better results than a virtual box, and also that linux is much better than windows ppd on normal bigadv.
[EDIT] You cannot get big-bigadv in windows. See post below me.
Edited by CTRLurself - 11/4/11 at 10:09am
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You should still be able to get them on Windows as long as you have a 12-thread CPU. The only time Linux must be used is when you want big-bigadv on a 4/6/8-threaded CPU.
Actually, the Windows clients will not pull bigbigadv WUs (Stanford set them only for use on Linux clients), so even if you have 12 cores, in order to get bigbigadv WUs (6903/6904), you need to use the Linux client, either native or in a VM.

EDIT: Bigadv WUs (non-6903/04) WUs are available in the Windows clients, so if you are just looking to work these, you can using any Windows client with the -bigadv folding flag (as long as you have at least 8 cores / threads).
Edited by WonderMutt - 11/4/11 at 10:09am
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Actually, the Windows clients will not pull bigbigadv WUs (Stanford set them only for use on Linux clients), so even if you have 12 cores, in order to get bigbigadv WUs (6903/6904), you need to use the Linux client, either native or in a VM.

EDIT: Bigadv WUs (non-6903/04) WUs are available in the Windows clients, so if you are just looking to work these, you can using any Windows client with the -bigadv folding flag.
My bad... and that's lame.

is there a special flag to get big-bigadvs? I was out of SMP folding for a while and just got back in, and some places are saying you need a different flag, but others don't.
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My bad... and that's lame.

is there a special flag to get big-bigadvs? I was out of SMP folding for a while and just got back in, and some places are saying you need a different flag, but others don't.
There is not a special flag for the bigbigadv WUs (at least not that I've seen). I followed this GUIDE by Digi to set up my SigRig (in a VM) and I'm currently folding a 6903 unit on my SigRig. As long as you are using the Linux client and have the corefix program run before your client starts (to make Linux think you have 12 cores), or if you have 12 cores/threads, it will pull bigbigadv WUs (if they are available). I did disable Langouste on mine because my upload times for a 6903 are only about 12-15 minutes and Langouste was not wanting to upload my WUs properly (all it does is allow the client to download another WU while it is uploading the completed WU rather than waiting until the upload is complete, great for if your upload times are high).

However, if you are using a 2500k you must have AT LEAST a 4.6 OC in order to complete a 6903 on time (and it will be close, at 4.7GHz my SigRig completes them with only about 10 hours to spare). Also, if you pull a 6904 on a 2500k, you will most likely not finish it in time. Even with a 4.7GHz OC, my SigRig actually completes those about 14 hours past deadline (so no bonus points ). Hope this helps!

EDIT: I just noticed that you are using a 970, I'm not sure how those compare to the 2500k in respect to folding, but I hope this gives you an idea as to what you can do and what to expect...
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ok I have a question being a folding noob...i am currently using client 7... my cpu is using bigadv ( set in the program ) currently working on project 7610.. is this a bigadv? i have submitted 26 or 27 WU.. does anyone have experience running client 7? I am also running dual 5870's running project 11294 ( whatever that means ) the client is telling me smp ppd is 9568, and gpus are about 9100 each.. am I on target? or did i set this up wrong?
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ok I have a question being a folding noob...i am currently using client 7... my cpu is using bigadv ( set in the program ) currently working on project 7610.. is this a bigadv? i have submitted 26 or 27 WU.. does anyone have experience running client 7? I am also running dual 5870's running project 11294 ( whatever that means ) the client is telling me smp ppd is 9568, and gpus are about 9100 each.. am I on target? or did i set this up wrong?
I'm not up on the client 7, however, 7610 is not a bigadv WU, the bigadv WUs are 2684, 2685, 2686, 2689, 2692, 6900 and 6901. Bigbigadv WUs are 6903 and 6904, but you cannot get these with the Windows client.
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ok I have a question being a folding noob...i am currently using client 7... my cpu is using bigadv ( set in the program ) currently working on project 7610.. is this a bigadv? i have submitted 26 or 27 WU.. does anyone have experience running client 7? I am also running dual 5870's running project 11294 ( whatever that means ) the client is telling me smp ppd is 9568, and gpus are about 9100 each.. am I on target? or did i set this up wrong?
That is not a bigadv WU, but that doesn't necessarily mean you set up your client wrong. There are a shortage of bigadv WUs right now so you may not get one for a while.
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EDIT: I just noticed that you are using a 970, I'm not sure how those compare to the 2500k in respect to folding, but I hope this gives you an idea as to what you can do and what to expect...

My 970 is my daily driver, that is off ~90% of the time. I'm bringing it on full-bore for this though. It posts at (almost) stock (as my sig rig is used more as a workstation than anything), on a normal advmethods WU ~24k PPD in Windows. I'll have a 12-core VM going (hopefully) tonight to get it running bigadv for the competition. My HTPC is a 4.8GHz 2600k w/HT that's going to be a 24/7 folder. I'm setting up my Linux VM for it tonight too and hopefully it'll start getting big-bigadv's for me as 8-threads at 4.8GHz will do some serious PPD. I'll also have a 950 that I want to OC coming online sometime this next week that'll also be a 24/7 folder that'll get OCd and run Linux natively as a big-bigadv folder.
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