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Which trade should I go for? 2 6970s or 2 470s

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I used to have 4x6970s. Sold those. Now I have 2 GTX 560 TI Hawks.

I met a guy wanting to trade my hawks and my Crucial M4 128GB SSD for his 2 6970s. I like 6970s, and since one of my 6970s is coming back to me due to it being an ES, I was considering going back to tri-fire. However losing all of that hardware for 2 cards is a big gamble. Not to mention he wants me to ship 1 card and 1 SSD first for 1 of his cards...

The OTHER trade on the table is JUST for my 2 560 TIs, in exchange for 2 reference 470s.

I like this trade a little because I don't lose my SSD, and I gain a little bit of Vram for BF3. Plus I would get both cards quicker to play the game, and have the ability to Tri-SLI, as opposed to my 560s. The problem is, I'm then going to be stuck with an extra 6970 that I can't sell due to it being an Engineering Sample.

Any opinions guys?

The 470s have been confirmed to OC up to 840mhz which is a nice OC for a 470, putting it in 570+ territory. 6970s perform close to 570s, so they'd be pretty much equal in regards to performance, with the 6970s at stock, and the 470s OC'd.

On one side I've got the 470s with less Vram but physx capability, and on the other I've got the 6970s with more Vram, but lack of physx.


The 6970s are Reference XFX models as well, so their OC capabilities may not be too great, and the 470s are reference EVGAs.

What are your opinions? Thanks.
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I'd say the whole trade idea is always a little bit sketchy(shipping one card + SSD before he ships you anything? just seems like asking to be taken advantage of).

That said, how much power do you really need? 2 470's will play almost all games out currently at close to max if not max. 3 6970's WILL play everything maxed. The problem with the more 470's you add is that they do not scale all that well as compared to the new 5xx series and the 6xxx series.

Since you ALREADY have a 6970 engineering sample, I'd almost think about searching for someone to trade you one 6970 + cash for two 560's. Then just CF the two 6970's. You'll have great performance with that alone for a while to come. While keeping your SSD and maybe even making some cash out of the deal as well. I just feel that anything over 2 6970's at this point is simply overkill you'll be maxing out and then some most games out on the market. And why try to be hitting 130 FPS when you won't even see the difference from 60 FPS?

And that's my rather long winded 2 and a half cents. Good luck, wish I had all this stuff to trade back and forth XDD.
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I'd say the whole trade idea is always a little bit sketchy(shipping one card + SSD before he ships you anything? just seems like asking to be taken advantage of).

That said, how much power do you really need? 2 470's will play almost all games out currently at close to max if not max. 3 6970's WILL play everything maxed. The problem with the more 470's you add is that they do not scale all that well as compared to the new 5xx series and the 6xxx series.

Since you ALREADY have a 6970 engineering sample, I'd almost think about searching for someone to trade you one 6970 + cash for two 560's. Then just CF the two 6970's. You'll have great performance with that alone for a while to come. While keeping your SSD and maybe even making some cash out of the deal as well. I just feel that anything over 2 6970's at this point is simply overkill you'll be maxing out and then some most games out on the market. And why try to be hitting 130 FPS when you won't even see the difference from 60 FPS?

And that's my rather long winded 2 and a half cents. Good luck, wish I had all this stuff to trade back and forth XDD.
This. Out of those two possible trades, I'd take the first one but tell the guy that if he wants you to ship almost all before he does something that he can forget it.
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I wouldn't do it to be honest. He could just take your equipment and run with it.
BTW my XFX hd 6970 is clocked at 950Mhz stable on the default voltage with a temp of 70C @ load with the fan only needing to go to about 40-45%. I'm pretty sure I could go farther with the overclock with something like Trixx.
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Why cant you sell a ES, does it work, does it do the same thing as a regular 6970 I might be interested.
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I'd say the whole trade idea is always a little bit sketchy(shipping one card + SSD before he ships you anything? just seems like asking to be taken advantage of).

That said, how much power do you really need? 2 470's will play almost all games out currently at close to max if not max. 3 6970's WILL play everything maxed. The problem with the more 470's you add is that they do not scale all that well as compared to the new 5xx series and the 6xxx series.

Since you ALREADY have a 6970 engineering sample, I'd almost think about searching for someone to trade you one 6970 + cash for two 560's. Then just CF the two 6970's. You'll have great performance with that alone for a while to come. While keeping your SSD and maybe even making some cash out of the deal as well. I just feel that anything over 2 6970's at this point is simply overkill you'll be maxing out and then some most games out on the market. And why try to be hitting 130 FPS when you won't even see the difference from 60 FPS?

And that's my rather long winded 2 and a half cents. Good luck, wish I had all this stuff to trade back and forth XDD.

Yeah I completely see where you're coming from. However when I ran the BF3 beta, it made use of all 3 6970s and ran it great. 2 6970s seemed to run a little choppy at 1080p/4xAA on Caspian Border.

I wasn't aware 470s don't scale well past 2xSLI. I think I'll be going with the trade for the 6970s since he has a good trader rating, and has done trades before. He wants me to send my Hawk + SSD and he'll send one card, then we do the rest later. That's his stipulation or else...

BF3 is what I'm aiming at here. And since I have 3 1080p monitors I'd like to do eyefinity since with the 3 monitors in surround with these 560s I can't even run BF BC2 maxed out at 1080p with any AA past 2x if I want to be at my best skillwise.

Hmm, he's anxious to get an answer since he has other offers floating around, so I figured I'd ask in the thread what the performance comparison would be.


So If I did get the 470s and OC'd them to 840, do you all think they would be comparable to 2 6970s in BF3? Did anyone use 2 or 3 470s with the BF3 beta? How did it do?
I know 3 6970s will beat 2 470s, and probably 3 since they dont scale AS well, but it'd be rather close with them OC'd to hell and back, lol.


Thanks guys!

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Why cant you sell a ES, does it work, does it do the same thing as a regular 6970 I might be interested.
It's exactly the same as a regular 6970. It's just an unwritten law of tech ethics to not sell engineering samples, since the manufacturers don't warranty them and they aren't supposed to be sold, just tested via reviewers.
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If you really want to keep the SSD then never mind the trade with that deals with it.
The 6970's are strong cards and if you liked them when you ran it in tri-fire see what else you can do. The rest of your hardware can run either options no problem.

And now with the 470's, hmm this is a toss up are the 470's from the same person that want the SSDs? I would go the 470 route if they can overclock well, but if the 560's overclock well too why not keep those?
I am kinda partial to nVidia though so if I was in your shoes I would SLI the 470's put them on water and milk them till kepler.

Good luck and do what will make you happy in the long run.
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It's exactly the same as a regular 6970. It's just an unwritten law of tech ethics to not sell engineering samples, since the manufacturers don't warranty them and they aren't supposed to be sold, just tested via reviewers.
Interesting. Well you could donate it that way you dont have to worry about selling it I wouldnt mind taking it lol.

Seriously tho I would take the 6970's.

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You sold your 6970's and want to go back ?
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