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post #11 of 22
Yikes! Ill stick with samsung SSDs for now, they may not be the fastest but they are way more reliable than sandforce. The Samsung 830s might change that though and give intel a reason to drop their prices.
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Intel may buy Sandforce down the road or share their tech with them.
I doubt Intel will allow a subpar controller onto their SSDs.
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Intel may buy Sandforce down the road or share their tech with them.
I doubt Intel will allow a subpar controller onto their SSDs.
It's more likely Intel will start making new controllers of their own; they may have to do it to compete more effectively with Samsung, especially if a firmware update jumps their random write performance (the only weak point I think with the 830).
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Wouldn't surprise me if Intel bought Sandforce and incorporate their own technology into it. Like OCZ acquiring Indilinx. November and December are going to be great months for tech deals and I've been looking out for a SATA III SSD.
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post #15 of 22
Intel SSD's are pretty good. Also, the one SSD's to watch out for coming up soon is Crucial and Samsung. Samsung especially, they make there own chips and controllers, and can therefor under price everyone. the new upcoming SSD's from them are looking very nice.
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Originally Posted by lowfat View Post
Really hope this isn't true.
Why?

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Originally Posted by missingno View Post
All this SF-22xx monkey business... I'm sticking with SF-1222
BSOD problem is fixed.

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Yikes! Ill stick with samsung SSDs for now, they may not be the fastest but they are way more reliable than sandforce. The Samsung 830s might change that though and give intel a reason to drop their prices.
I'd be willing to say they're just as reliable now that Sandforce's issue is fixed.

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Intel may buy Sandforce down the road or share their tech with them.
I doubt Intel will allow a subpar controller onto their SSDs.
Subpar how? BSOD bug is fixed (I've read tons of success stories on the OCZ board... seems any lingering stability issues are unrelated to the drives) and they're faster than anything Intle currently offers.
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It's funny, most people here won't see a difference between a Vertex Plus, Vertex 2 or Vertex 3, yet always go for the fastest one even if it's unreliable.
    
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It's funny, most people here won't see a difference between a Vertex Plus, Vertex 2 or Vertex 3, yet always go for the fastest one even if it's unreliable.
1) reliability issues are a thing of the past

2) might not see a difference? Well hell, most people wouldn't notice the difference between a core 2 duo and a 2500k in plain windows applications, why bother with upgrading at all? Thats about the worst possible reason anyone could give. If everyone had this attitude we'd still be stuck with windows 3.1 and 4 megs of RAM. Give me a break.
post #19 of 22
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Finally a 100% reliable and probably overpriced SF 2281 drive? Could it be?
100% reliable?

Intel's current SSDs may have a lower failure rate than anyone else's, but they still have a vastly higher failure rate than zero.

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It's funny, most people here won't see a difference between a Vertex Plus, Vertex 2 or Vertex 3, yet always go for the fastest one even if it's unreliable.
I went for a cheap Toshiba controller and NAND, because of cheapness and reliability. Speed is good enough to be indistinguishable in general use.

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1) reliability issues are a thing of the past
One would hope.

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2) might not see a difference? Well hell, most people wouldn't notice the difference between a core 2 duo and a 2500k in plain windows applications, why bother with upgrading at all?
Most people with Core 2 Duos probably shouldn't.

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Thats about the worst possible reason anyone could give.
On the contrary, I can't think of a better one.

There is no sense in spending more for an imperceptible difference in practical performancel.

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If everyone had this attitude we'd still be stuck with windows 3.1 and 4 megs of RAM. Give me a break.
Wrong.

If everyone had this attitude, everyone would have what they actually found useful, and no more.

Some tasks can be done fine with 4MiB of RAM, and I would never, for example, recommend replacing a 20 year old embedded system that works just fine with something new, just because it's "faster", if that speed doesn't mean a damn thing.
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1) reliability issues are a thing of the past

2) might not see a difference? Well hell, most people wouldn't notice the difference between a core 2 duo and a 2500k in plain windows applications, why bother with upgrading at all? Thats about the worst possible reason anyone could give. If everyone had this attitude we'd still be stuck with windows 3.1 and 4 megs of RAM. Give me a break.
1) Whether they are or aren't is irrelevant, IMO it's still better to wait for the next generation ones then get a last gen one on sale, you get it cheaper and almost definitely won't notice the difference.

2) There becomes a point that the CPU is the bottleneck in game loading and nearly any SSD can hit that point, other than that I cannot think of any way you'd load the SSD unless you're using it for file storage...In which case, you are the some people who would see a difference.

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I went for a cheap Toshiba controller and NAND, because of cheapness and reliability. Speed is good enough to be indistinguishable in general use.
Exactly what I mean, unless you're loading massive files, (ie. You're in the some people who would see a difference that I referred to) budget SSDs are great and probably exactly the same as a normal SSD when it comes down to it.
    
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