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I can claim to be part of the actual empire, not one of its dominions, thank you kindly.
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I can claim to be part of the actual empire, not one of its dominions, thank you kindly.
You ought to read up on that. Canada is no more a dominion of the British Empire than Ireland is part of the Commonwealth.
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Some still read the BNA Act passage as specifying this phrase – rather than Canada alone – as the name. The term Dominion of Canada does not appear in the 1867 act nor in the Constitution Act, 1982 but does appear in the Constitution Act, 1871, other contemporaneous texts, and subsequent bills. References to the Dominion of Canada in later acts, such as the Statute of Westminster, do not clarify the point because all nouns were formally capitalised in British legislative style.
The two documents of succession in bold. Specifically the Constitution Act, 1982 (which is a British Act) and the Canadian counterpart (and the act that holds the greatest power) The Canada Act, 1982.

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While the Canada Act 1982 received royal assent on March 29, 1982 in London, it was not until the Queen came to Canada that the Constitution Act, 1982, its Canadian equivalent, was proclaimed by letters patent as a statutory instrument by the Queen during her presence in Canada.[11]

The Constitution Act, 1982 was signed into law by Elizabeth II as Queen of Canada on April 17, 1982 on Parliament Hill in Ottawa.[11] Queen Elizabeth's constitutional powers over Canada were not affected by the Act, and she remains Queen and Head of State of Canada.[12] Canada has complete sovereignty as an independent country and the Queen's role as monarch of Canada is separate from her role as the British monarch or the monarch of any of the other Commonwealth realms.
So, while at Canada's inception it was named as The Dominion of Canada in the British North America Act (a british document), that Act was subsequently replaced by our Constitution.

An excerpt:


The Brits do not hold Dominion over Canada.




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It was not replaced:
"the fact that the Constitution Act, 1982 does not mention and therefore does not remove the title, and that a constitutional amendment is required to change it."

It needs to be formally removed in the constitution, not just ignored, and as such, the old term still applies. It doesn't mean Canada is treated like a Dominion, but since the term was never voided, I can still use it.
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We should settle this debate with a game of hockey Eh!
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It was not replaced:
"the fact that the Constitution Act, 1982 does not mention and therefore does not remove the title, and that a constitutional amendment is required to change it."

It needs to be formally removed in the constitution, not just ignored, and as such, the old term still applies. It doesn't mean Canada is treated like a Dominion, but since the term was never voided, I can still use it.
... This is very interesting, z.

Quote:
Originally Posted by wiki "Name of Canada" page
Neither the term Dominion of Canada nor Dominion government appear in the 1867 Act; however, the former appears in the Constitution Act, 1871 — usage of which was "sanctioned" [35] — and both appear in other texts of the period, as well as on numerous Canadian bills before 1967.

Until the 1950s, the term Dominion of Canada was commonly used to identify the country. As Canada acquired political authority and autonomy from the United Kingdom, the federal government began using simply Canada on state documents.

The transition away from the use of Dominion was formally reflected in 1982 with the passage of the Canada Act, which refers only to Canada. Later in 1982, the national holiday was renamed from Dominion Day to Canada Day. Section 4 of the 1867 BNA Act also declares that:

Unless it is otherwise expressed or implied, the Name Canada shall be taken to mean Canada as constituted under this Act.

and this has been interpreted to mean that the name of the country is simply Canada. No constitutional statute amends this name, and the subsequent Canada Act 1982 does not use the term dominion. However, the Canadian constitution includes the preceding BNA Acts, where the term is used; also, the Canada Act 1982 does not state that Canada is not a dominion.
Official sources of the United Nations system,[36][37] international organizations (such as the Organization of American States[38]), the European Union,[39] the United States,[40] and other polities with which Canada has official relations as a state consistently use Canada as the only official name, state that Canada has no long-form name, or that the formal name is simply Canada. While no legal document ever says that the name of the country is anything other than Canada,[41] Dominion and Dominion of Canada remain official titles of the country.[42][43][44]
You are free to use it.

I might do so myself.
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Huzzah, I have beaten the Canadians!
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We should settle this debate with a game of hockey Eh!
No mercy for z

But a hockey game is not a real hockey game if there's no beer after it
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Huzzah, I have beaten the Canadians!
Yay!


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