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I've been running my rigs on water for around 4 years now and like many would like to move into phase change cooling. While Im real confident in my water setup skills I have no direct experience with PC only what I've read here and other sites like xtremesystems. Right now Im leaning towards a cooler express single stage as I only need to cool my cpu and it fits within my budget of around $1000. On the other hand I'm picking up a large new caselabs case and like the idea of getting a custom cooler to fit inside the case or the addon pedastal. I know there a lot of experienced ppl here so Im looking for recommendations as well as if it'd be possible to get a new unit / custom unit that would fit in an aftermarket case while still being within my budget.

Thanks much!

Edit: I did find this here but will that work for us in the states?

http://www.ldcooling.com/shop/l/51-l...se-change.html
Edited by sndstream - 10/23/11 at 6:06pm
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post #2 of 12
What you linked to is meant for ~220VAC, most here in the states the typical socket is 120V, although technically you can run a 220V line to your computer I don't think it would be worth it; I did but I never really use it . And unless you really know what you're doing than its better to leave it to a professional. Note that ld system is way more than $1k.

PM Scott (sdumper). He does the coolerexpress units here in the states; his work is impeccable (unlike mine ).
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if you are buying contact sdumper.. he can get you a custom cooler express that is better than the regular retail for around that price.

also try and contact runmc on XS if he'd be willing to build you one for that price... You can get a pretty darn good ss for that price

when it comes to in-case phase.. sometimes it can be limited due to size constaints.. littledevil is also another builder i would contact.

and the link you put will work for us in the US.

EDIT: nice catch dinkledork.. i didn't notice it was for 220vac...
Edited by badatgames18 - 10/23/11 at 7:01pm
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You scared me for a second there...

BTW, have you done any testing yet about SB scaling under cold?
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You scared me for a second there...

BTW, have you done any testing yet about SB scaling under cold?
yep.. mid -40s under load.. i can get up to -51 in a cold room idle
will grab some screen shots, but no OS software reads it right.. seems like real temp never goes bellow 0C

so i guess k probe and screen together will do

how goes yours under load?
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You mean down to -51°C

I meant clock speeds...

As for temps, the farther you get to tjunction the less accurate the measurement, by the time it gets to 0°C it is pretty much useless anyway. I guess my compressor it too underpowered to get below -30°C, that combined with the fact that I probably rushed my lapping is probably what limits me to ~4.7GHZ.
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post #7 of 12
Quote:
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You mean down to -51°C

I meant clock speeds...

As for temps, the farther you get to tjunction the less accurate the measurement, by the time it gets to 0°C it is pretty much useless anyway. I guess my compressor it too underpowered to get below -30°C, that combined with the fact that I probably rushed my lapping is probably what limits me to ~4.7GHZ.
oh lol that's what i meant

i have a chip that can do 5700 and maybe 58 (freezes in windows )
gonna up the volts after i'm done binning everything and will see how it goes
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post #8 of 12
We have those Cooler Express units.

http://ftwpc.com/cooling/phase-change-units.html
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oh lol that's what i meant

i have a chip that can do 5700 and maybe 58 (freezes in windows )
gonna up the volts after i'm done binning everything and will see how it goes
Oh wow that's a lot better than I thought. In the beginning weren't they coldbugging at like -30? Things have come a long way
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There's plenty of room in a Caselabs pedestal for a ss unit. You may have to go with a shorter 1/5-1/4hp or... if needed, just make a 1/2" sump/notch to clear a 1/3hp recip. SB doesn't need anything extreme so the unit can be tuned for very low sound levels. If you plan to use other types of cpu's then you would probably want the coldest possible.

Here's a pic showing minimum space for a high capacity 1/3hp unit. A 1/4hp Danfoss NF9FX would need 7.75" + 1/4" clearance = 8".
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