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SB i2500k is RASA rx360 overkill?

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So here's the deal - i JUST upgraded my rig and sold off old components...net net I have $300 sitting in paypal and I would LOVE to spend it but only if it makes sense. Here's what i have so far:

i2500k
8Gb Mushkin Redline DDR3 1600 CAS7
Asrock P67 Extreme4
Corsair 650W PSU
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1Tb HDD
WD 150Gb Velociraptor 10K rpm HDD
MSI Twin Frozr II GTX570

just ordered CM HAF-32

NOW...I DO have a TRUE-120 from about 5 years ago...so i'm thinking either:

a) get a couple top quality fans and still use the TRUE 120
b) stick with air but get a Thermaltake Silver Arrow and sell the TRUE
c) go "all out" and get a XSPC RX360 kit (just upgrading the tubing) since my case can handle it and hopefully I won't be limited in my OC by my cooler

Now - here's a few conflicting thoughts (i've done a TON of research and reading online and through these forums but still not convinced one way or another. I am NOT opposed to the cost of the RX360 IF it really makes a diff in HOW HIGH i can stably o/c my i2500k. IF people here say it's overkill (and they'll experienced it firsthand) then I'll just get the SA OR use my existing TRUE for that matter. I don't want to spend $200 only to get 100Mhz higher clock from my cpu. I don't intend to get a GPU block either since i already have the Twin Frozr...seems like a waste...so it's a CPU loop only. If all the rx360 buys me is lower temps with no additional performance then to ME it's not worth it. I'd LIKE to get at LEAST 4.8Ghz if I go liquid. I see enough 4.6Ghz clocks on air that if i can't go 4.8-5.0 safely on the rasa kit then i'll just pass. I could aways get a SSD for my OS OR a 2nd GTX570 for that matter. Any thoughts from people that have had to make the same decision and more importantly what was your experience? I hate to think I have this awesome case (HAF-32) and I'm not taking advantage of it BUT if i can't realistically push my i2500k over 4.7-4.8 no matter what then i guess I should have just kept my Lian Li and stock cooler. Any thoughts?

Thanks so much!!!

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post #2 of 10
How about an SSD? A 128GB Crucial M4 goes for around $200.
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Water cooling can never guarantee better overclocks, all it can do is help with cooling. If you hit your peak with over clocking with the True and your temps were still alright, then I wouldn't expect water cooling to help. If your max overclock was only limited by temp then there is a chance, but again no guarantee.

I'd personally get a second 570 if you are gaming on a decent sized monitor, or an SSD like the one brackberry suggested.
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What voltage are you planning to set with that 2500k? if you're lucky and
you got the good chip you don't need a high voltage to get 5Ghz. I've seen
some people OC'd their procs at 5Ghz with 1.325v and that voltage your OK
with air.


hth
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SSD with a corsair H70 will do the trick
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If you get the RX360 then you can just buy a block + fittings for the GTX570 or future GPU and add it to the loop. Personally Water-cooling is the last thing that has remained fun about building computers. Now its so easy anyone can do it apart from custom loops.
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SSD>WCing in my opinion
Sandy Bridge runs cool and overclocks easily enough. Id just pick up some nice fans for your True, and pick up a nice SSD. A 128gb crucial M4 (king of the sata 6gbps IMO) can easily be had for under $200
    
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Well thanks to your feedback and a little more research I'm convinced that getting my i2500k to 4.8Ghz or more has very little to do with having water vs air and has a LOT to do with luck of the draw on the chip (I make that conclusion knowing I already have a solid heatsink (TRUE Ultra 120 Extreme) and an HAF-32 so case airflow will not be an issue.

SO - I decided to order a San Ace 9G1212H1011 Fan for $23...an LGA1155 adapter for the TRUE for $8...and call it a day. $270 left to spend 8) Think an SSD is in order at least for my OS drive (Win 7 64) vs a 2nd GTX570 (gaming at 1920x1080p on a 42-inch Vizio) now. and here I JUST installed Win 7 plus apps in anticipation of the new case/cooler so I could start overclocking right away lmao. Oh well...not the first time to reinstall and won't be the last haha. Anyway thanks again for all your thoughts!
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Your basically right there ginoc1, SB chips overclock potential doesn't seem to scale that well the colder you make it, not like previous generations of chips.
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I had my 2500k on water with 360 + 120 but it needs silly volts to get stable at 49x so I keep it at 47x
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