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Google’s complaints about patent-based attacks against Android don’t seem to be doing the company any good. We all know Steve Jobs pledged to destroy Android, claiming it stole its ideas from Apple’s iOS. Yet what is likely an even bigger threat comes from Microsoft, which claims that more than half of all Android devices are now subject to patent licensing agreements.

What does that mean? When you buy an Android phone, there’s a good chance either the vendor whose name is on the device or one of the manufacturers who contributed hardware to it is paying Microsoft a fee for each sale. Today, Microsoft announced an agreement with Compal, an original design manufacturer that produces smartphones and tablets for third parties and takes in $28 billion in annual revenue. This was the “tenth license agreement providing coverage under our patent portfolio for Android mobile phones and tablets,” and the ninth in the last four months, Microsoft lawyers Brad Smith and Horacio Gutierrez write in a blog post.

“More important, today’s announcement means that companies accounting for over half of all Android devices have now entered into patent license agreements with Microsoft,” they claim.
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You are probably wondering which Microsoft patents have allowed Microsoft to sign up all these vendors to license deals. While all the details of licensing agreements aren’t made public, Microsoft’s Android-related patents have been revealed in lawsuits. Examples include patents related to “implementing both long and short file names in the same file system,” a monitoring system that determines when to erase memory from flash memory devices, and patents related to managing contact databases and meeting requests.
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Put it in the software section cause android is an OS and from what I understand they are making money off of patents for android, not the actual handsets.
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Wow this is really stupid. Patenting system got to be the most stupid system ever. There are things that just dont make sense to patent. Yes you can patent certain things but this is going out of hand.
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Wow this is really stupid. Patenting system got to be the most stupid system ever. There are things that just dont make sense to patent. Yes you can patent certain things but this is going out of hand.
They really need specialist for each area at the patent office. I mean people extremely versed on whichever patents they are viewing for approval. It really isn't the patent system itself that is so bad, it is the people that approve these things have no idea what they are really approving when it comes down to it. Some legal and technical sounding jargon goes a long way when the person(s) viewing it have no idea what it really means. They can make something so simple and generic sound very specific and if the people aren't very very involved and educated in the field that the patent is pertaining, they will probably grant the patent.
Edited by Strat79 - 10/23/11 at 9:44pm
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Go Micro$oft!
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Wow this is really stupid. Patenting system got to be the most stupid system ever. There are things that just dont make sense to patent. Yes you can patent certain things but this is going out of hand.
Some things are, indeed, but the memory algorithm isn't.
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Some things are, indeed, but the memory algorithm isn't.
I can understand patenting an algorithm. I mean like you took the time to come up with the algorithm(not referring to MS). I personally understand if RSA didn't make their code open source and made you license it. But that's a set of arguments for another thread.
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Tech patents are very messy.
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I don't understand what hand Microsoft had in the creation of Android and Android phones.

EDIT: Nvm I get it now. They owned previous patents to general things that are a must for all cell phones.
Edited by SkillzKillz - 10/23/11 at 10:05pm
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I don't understand what hand Microsoft had in the creation of Android and Android phones.
From what it seems, microsoft created X. A second company took X and made it into something else based off X (lets call it y) and then HTC, Moto, etc implements Y

Also the source has a link with some of the patents.

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No. 6,909,910 from 2005 for "managing changes to a contact database."

• No. 7,644,376, issued in 2010 to cover an API that lets mobile apps learn about state changes in the device.

• No. 5,664,133 from 1997 covering "context sensitive menu system/menu behavior," known more generally as a graphical user interface that lets users "quickly and easily select/execute the desired computer resource."

• No. 6,578,054 from 2003 covering online and offline transmission of data through methods that "eliminate data transmission and allow multiple copies of data to be synchronized via incremental changes."

• No. 6,370,566 from 2002, with the self-explanatory title, "Generating Meeting Requests and Group Scheduling From a Mobile Device."
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I hope Google copies windows 7 and names it Google 7 and makes it free.
    
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