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You might want to "mention" what it actually is I'm wrong about or provide a link. The faster it spins the more noise it produces. I've never read or ever heard anyone try to argue otherwise.

Acutally, you stated more information then that. You said that lower RPM and larger fins make less noise then smaller ones with larger RPM. I think it is clear as day you are just trying to pick up your loose pieces.

I'm telling you what you even said. Ya, I'm not arguing with that. Lol.
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Acutally, you stated more information then that. You said that lower RPM and larger fins make less noise then smaller ones with larger RPM. I think it is clear as day you are just trying to pick up your loose pieces.

I'm telling you what you even said. Ya, I'm not arguing with that. Lol.
I think you might be misreading what I've said, or I've not written it clearly enough. Regardless, despite me reading it back, I can't see where I wrote that.

At the same RPM the fans should make similar noise, except the larger one is pushing more air. I believe I also said that for the smaller fan to produce the same amount of airflow it will have to have a much higher RPM which will result it in being louder.

That's why I expect whatever fans are on the ViDock to be quite loud, because they will have to spin really fast to produce enough airflow to cool a graphics card as powerful as a GTX 560 Ti. In fact, I can't even see where on earth they'd put a fan on that little thing. I don't even know if it uses the stock heat-sink/fan or has it's own. I'm assuming the latter.
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You people make my head hurt. That asus ultrabook is almost an exact replica of a macbook air, and you find its styling better?
Yes, I like the finish on the aluminum better ( it seems more masculine) and I like the metal keys, I do not like the fact that they are not back-lit however.

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Better price?
1.8Ghz Dual Core with Winblows for $1500?
Force to use a horrible trackpad compared to MB touchpads?
Better looking yet an exact rip off of the Air's look?
Are you crazy?
The Macbook Air with the 1.8 is $1700
I never liked Apples touchpads
What would you like them to do, paint it yellow? There isn't too many ways to make a device that opens to show a screen and a keyboard. They at least added a swirl effect to the outer case, they used metal for the keys, tried to make the corners more square and wrote their name pretty big on it.

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Out of curiosity what is better... HD 3000 graphics or UMA graphics?
I honestly doubt if I could tell a difference for what I do. You may, but not me.
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ok i should have stated, but i would go macbook pro. im more of a power user than just a browser
I posted it because you said you were a Windows user...
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All I can see is that thing overheating a lot.
I have wondered about that.
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Do you have any references for your claims regarding battery life?
Ask PC Mag... they tested em.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817...id=xre7GP2HtOR


As for those that say that the Zenbook is a rip off of the Air.... really, how else would you like for companies to build a thin laptop? There is a bottom, a top, you open it to reveal a screen and a keyboard. I am sure that they want to make it look like their product as much as they can. If you look at these pictures you will of course see similarities, but you will also see differences.
http://www.engadget.com/photos/asus-zenbook-ux31-vs-apple-macbook-air-vs-acer-aspire-s3-fig/#4541895

I don't get the whole "they look too much alike" thing myself. Someone that wants to buy an Apple product is NOT going to buy anything else no matter how similar they look.
I personally prefer Windows as far as an OS goes and I don't like Apple for several ethical/personal reasons, so I don't want a machine that looks too much like a Mac. Therefore I like the fact that they wrote "ASUS" all over the thing.
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Ah, I see. I won't bother asking although I did Google Mobile Mark 2007 and found out it is only available for Windows which would be why they didn't mention it. The MacBook Air would perform better under Mac OS X.
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As for those that say that the Zenbook is a rip off of the Air.... really, how else would you like for companies to build a thin laptop? There is a bottom, a top, you open it to reveal a screen and a keyboard. I am sure that they want to make it look like their product as much as they can. If you look at these pictures you will of course see similarities, but you will also see differences.
http://www.engadget.com/photos/asus-zenbook-ux31-vs-apple-macbook-air-vs-acer-aspire-s3-fig/#4541895

I don't get the whole "they look too much alike" thing myself. Someone that wants to buy an Apple product is NOT going to buy anything else no matter how similar they look.
I personally prefer Windows as far as an OS goes and I don't like Apple for several ethical/personal reasons, so I don't want a machine that looks too much like a Mac. Therefore I like the fact that they wrote "ASUS" all over the thing.
I don't think it matters that they copy it, but I do believe they do. For example, those three all taper down like the Air and I'd bet every other ultra thin laptop does now too.

People don't just buy Apple laptops because they like them, some buy them because they like the design, the aesthetics. By copying that it means that person might choose the other laptop. It doesn't really matter, and it can't really be stopped.
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Ah, I see. I won't bother asking although I did Google Mobile Mark 2007 and found out it is only available for Windows which would be why they didn't mention it. The MacBook Air would perform better under Mac OS X.

I don't think it matters that they copy it, but I do believe they do. For example, those three all taper down like the Air and I'd bet every other ultra thin laptop does now too.

People don't just buy Apple laptops because they like them, some buy them because they like the design, the aesthetics. By copying that it means that person might choose the other laptop. It doesn't really matter, and it can't really be stopped.
Yeah, it probably would perform better under OS X, but they also said that the ASUS wasn't using any of it power saving features. I would like to see a fair test on both machines.

As far the tapering in the design, to be honest with you the ASUS reminds me more of the Sony VGN-SZ line. (What a piece of junk)


There may be a few out there that buy them for the aesthetics, but I don't think it is many. Anyone that knows that there is a difference in the OS will more often choose the OS that they prefer. Now of course there are the few that don't care, have enough money that they aren't concerned about price and will but something based solely on it's appearance.
Everything is starting to look alike anyways... look at the car industry.
Like I said before, I personally don't care for the Mac OS, so I wouldn't buy an Airbook no matter how much I like the way it looks. I currently have a Lenovo X61 12" laptop which is ugly as sin, but with a 2.2ghz Core 2 Duo, 8 gb of RAM and a 320 gb 720 rpm HDD it has served me well for the past 3 years.
I am now thinking about getting a new one and I have looked at the ASUS and the Samsung 9 Series (looks nothing like the Air). I like the Samsung but the ASUS seems to be a better buy.
In the end I may just wait for Windows 8 anyway though.
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Those prices are disgusting.
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Yeah, it probably would perform better under OS X, but they also said that the ASUS wasn't using any of it power saving features. I would like to see a fair test on both machines.

As far the tapering in the design, to be honest with you the ASUS reminds me more of the Sony VGN-SZ line. (What a piece of junk)
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Indeed, more detailed tests would be good. Yucky picture... lol!
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There may be a few out there that buy them for the aesthetics, but I don't think it is many. Anyone that knows that there is a difference in the OS will more often choose the OS that they prefer. Now of course there are the few that don't care, have enough money that they aren't concerned about price and will but something based solely on it's appearance.
Everything is starting to look alike anyways... look at the car industry.
Like I said before, I personally don't care for the Mac OS, so I wouldn't buy an Airbook no matter how much I like the way it looks. I currently have a Lenovo X61 12" laptop which is ugly as sin, but with a 2.2ghz Core 2 Duo, 8 gb of RAM and a 320 gb 720 rpm HDD it has served me well for the past 3 years.
I am now thinking about getting a new one and I have looked at the ASUS and the Samsung 9 Series (looks nothing like the Air). I like the Samsung but the ASUS seems to be a better buy.
In the end I may just wait for Windows 8 anyway though.
That's fair enough, I love the Mac OS and I don't mind Windows 7 but prefer the former greatly. (Although the latter is the obvious choice for gaming.) I have to disagree with the Samsung 9 series, I think the ASUS looks like the Air but the 9 even more so. Like I said though, it doesn't really matter.

I'm not liking what I see with Windows 8. I like to stay up to date with the latest stuff but it looks like I'll be staying with 7 for now.
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Those prices are disgusting.
^ This.
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No, what's disgusting is that I'll be able to sell my MacBook for $600-$700, which I bought 4 years ago for $1500.
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$1400 for a 13" dual core with integrated grpahics.
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