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Instead of Nvidia acquiring x86 from VIA, VIA and NV should merge. Then the x86 license stays intact and we get more x86 competition.

But it will never happen...

Also, the problem with Windows on ARM is going to be the same as was Windows on ALPHA: NO APPLICATIONS.
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#1 Companies generally don't do things to "stick it".... generally, of course.

#2 Apple has attempted vertical integration for the last decade. While they may not have the best hardware, they compensate for the optimized software on the hardware.


#3 ARM publishes CPU designs which other companies modify or redesign freely as long as they are compatible. Apple is no doubt working on a quad-core and designed based on the ARM Cortex A15.



It's ARM.... Linux runs on it fine. Support is really up to the developers and companies to provide drivers.
#1 Yeah I know . Profit/advancement/pleasing the share holders. I would just think NVIDIA harbors a bit of resentment towards Intel for the way they play hardball.

#2 Yeah. Have to admit some of Apple's stuff is pretty nifty, though, all I own are a couple of ipods from them.

#3 Let's hope so. Jobs made HUGE strides in electronics and kind of "forced" other component/software manufactures to keep up a good pace or fall to the wayside; even then Apple became the most valuable company in the world.

Wish I kept up with this stuff some more.

Thanks for the feedback.
 
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Jen-Hsun has said SO many times NVidia would NEVER touch x86, because Intel is a boss and they know it. They have been developing an ARM chip for a while now, so its most likely that. If it is x86, they better prep to get stomped by, well even AMD, Intel's the OG, you can't just hop into the x86 market and herp derp your way to victory. Hell even AMD knew this, and copied Intel's chips to get off the ground.
post #34 of 42
So sad to see the high end market ignored and all the attention to the already saturated to death mobile market. All people do is use facebook and play angry birds on it anyways.
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Nvidia game is ARM with a software translator of sort for x86 instructions. They do not have a x86 license so they can never build a x86 processor, only intel amd and cyrix has.....
AMD don't have one now, GF do. Technically nVidia can use the ruling of Intel allowing AMD to use GFs foundries to construct chips to their advantage in a partnership with VIA.

And it could technically be a hardware translator, all current x86 chips are actually RISC chips with an x86 translator.

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It says in the interview they Nvidia wants to get into PCs with "Windows-on-ARMs". Not sure if "Windows-on-ARMs" is Windows 8 or just what Huang is calling an ARM based windows that may come out in the future.
They meant Windows 8's ARM version.

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Oh yea... forgot about that licensing pact between Intel and AMD. Anyone know if Via is in on the license for AMD64?

I would definitely like to see some kind of low powered Tegra for HTPC purposes, even if it is just to push Intel and AMD to find more ways to keep lowering power consumption and increasing performance per watt.
They are.

The VIA Nano is x86-64.
    
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Not having x86 is not the end of the world. In the future its can become unnecessary.
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Not having x86 is not the end of the world. In the future its can become unnecessary.
How will apps run? Emulator for older ones, native ARM for the rest?
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How will apps run? Emulator for older ones, native ARM for the rest?
Recompile them on ARM.

MS is going to have an ARM version of Office and hopefully WLM, other than that I can't see any killer apps for the mainstream audience.
    
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Recompile them on ARM.

MS is going to have an ARM version of Office and hopefully WLM, other than that I can't see any killer apps for the mainstream audience.
That isn't going to happen for every game and other software made in the last 30 years.
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Windows 8 ARM should have .NET 4 on it, so any recompiled app/game from the last 7 years should run without much hassle.
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