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I wonder what the 2600k set up was. My 2600k gets 7's in Cinebench at stock speeds. Most bulldozer benches show 2600k speeds way below what they should be... it's like they're gimping them to make a crappy chip look slightly better.

Wonder if this has to do with anything...

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Note: AMD’s Turbo Core and Intel’s Turbo Mode were disabled on all chips, in order to prevent them from adjusting the CPU’s clock speed and throwing off results. As a consequence, the results here will be lower than in a standard review, particularly for single-thread performance.
Not necessarily standing up for it per-se as I have seen some pretty biased benchmarks supporting BD. For every positively biased BD benchmark there are probably 4-5 biased towards Intel though.

Only time will tell though. Whether it succeeds or not I like it. Looking forward to Intel's 3D design even more though. Not that I like Intel... :'/
Edited by Ryleh - 10/24/11 at 9:48pm
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Looking forward to Intel's 3D design even more though.
Yea... seems like the 3D 22nm is shaping up to really drop power consumption and/or really increase clocks. Hope AMD at least can do something with GF to get their 32nm process refined a bit more soon. Otherwise the FX chips are really going to look archaic when IB drops.
    
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Wonder if this has to do with anything...

Not necessarily standing up for it per-se as I have seen some pretty biased benchmarks supporting BD. For every positively biased BD benchmark there are probably 4-5 biased towards Intel though.

Only time will tell though. Whether it succeeds or not I like it. Looking forward to Intel's 3D design even more though. Not that I like Intel... :'/
Yes, that has everything to do with it.

Turbo Core was disabled on all chips, they wanted to get true IPC performance. They even said: The results here will be lower than in a standard review, particularly for single-thread performance.
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Let's keep things civil.
You say to keep it civil, yet your avatar is faildozer? Come on, grow up.
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Fixing the scheduling issues with BD may help, but not nearly as much as it will need to be competitive with Intel chips within its price range. Unless AMD can pull a miracle with BD I don't seeing being a good buy for anyone, for any reason.
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BD sucks, news at 11.
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You say to keep it civil, yet your avatar is faildozer? Come on, grow up.
Was kinda thinking the same thing.....^
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You say to keep it civil, yet your avatar is faildozer? Come on, grow up.
OP updated. I'll still keep a civilized discussion though, and encourage others to do the same.

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