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maybe the next gen BD just needs more cores, like maybe 16 cores
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maybe the next gen BD just needs more cores, like maybe 16 cores
More cores isn't going to fix poor single threaded performance.
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Try again. Intel holds the record for the biggest fail.
Yeah, but that was a very long time ago and Intel had no competition, i.e. no reason to better themselves.

AMD had the time, the resources, the incentive..

And we get this.

It's like.. how can their GPU side be so clever while their CPU side is as dumb as needles.
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More cores isn't going to fix poor single threaded performance.
Nope, it won't. In all likely hood it would be worse, all things being equal. Not to mention, you would have to run dual psu's just to run tri-sli 580's with 16 Zambezi cores. I'm fairly certain that even a 1500w psu wouldn't be able to handle it all otherwise.
Edited by Lucky 13 SpeedShop - 10/25/11 at 12:45am
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Try again. Intel holds the record for the biggest fail.
Yeah, that Williamette P4 was terrible. The Northwood P4 gained some respectability back just to be tarnished by Prescott once again.
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Yeah, but that was a very long time ago and Intel had no competition, i.e. no reason to better themselves.

AMD had the time, the resources, the incentive..

And we get this.

It's like.. how can their GPU side be so clever while their CPU side is as dumb as needles.
Not that I agree with the way you worded things, but "ATI"
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More cores isn't going to fix poor single threaded performance.
I'm joking, although I shouldn't we all need the intel competion
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Not that I agree with the way you worded things, but "ATI"
Saying that ATi was the same after it was bought by AMD is like saying that Westwood was the same after is was bought by EA.

And AMD's CPU side used to be very strong.
It took them some time to get funding after buying ATi, but that's why BD was supposed to be so great..
We gave them time to sort things out and we were expecting, and rightfully so, the next Athlon X2.

Instead we get a LOWER performing chip? Something isn't right..
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Originally Posted by Track View Post
Yeah, but that was a very long time ago and Intel had no competition, i.e. no reason to better themselves.

AMD had the time, the resources, the incentive..

And we get this.

It's like.. how can their GPU side be so clever while their CPU side is as dumb as needles.
"Had no competition"?

I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but during their peak AMD held nearly half of the x86 CPU market, right on Intel's heels. Intel had a pretty damn good reason to better themselves (and they did, along came the Conroe).

Also, as much as they might have had time an incentive, AMD has always been a smaller company and quite frankly doesn't have a whole lot of resources to go around.
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I heard many people claiming that Bulldozer is good in multi-threaded benchmarks.

But from what I seen Bulldozer is not that good even in heavy threaded benchmarks. i7 2600 beats FX-8150 in most multi-threaded benchmarks, and i5 2500 performs neck to neck with FX-8120 (sometimes FX-8120 wins and sometimes i5 2500 wins)

On the other hand, Bulldozer performs poorly in lightly threaded benchmarks. Also, Sandy bridge has advantage in power consumption.
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