Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Video Game News › [EG]DICE talks next-gen Xbox and PS4
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

[EG]DICE talks next-gen Xbox and PS4 - Page 6

post #51 of 65
Quote:
Originally Posted by BizzareRide View Post
When you consider the fact that every console prior has matched a high-end PC of the time, you're statements just doesn't make sense.

*Newsflash* Just because you know how to build a computer, doesn't make you any more informed about console hardware. Honestly, building a PC is probably the easiest puzzle you can attempt to solve. How many pieces are there typically? 15? Wow...
not really ... it seems easy on paper but you have to know and be up to date with current tech to get the best out the money you put into it.

When I plan to buy any new hardware for my PC , I research it for a good few days and then make my decision. Otherwise you are bound to buy some overpriced component that maybe performs well but isn't worth it or it doesn't perform better or is unstable compared to a different unit / manufacturer.

You have to take into account alot of technical things, wattage, sockets, type of mobo ( O'cing or not?, amd vs intel) , CPU performance, GPU ( are you or planning to SLI, O'C, nvidia vs ati, low-mid-high range ) etc... and most importantly are the components you've chosen STABLE performance wise! then the money comes in to play later.. not an easy puzzle by any means
My System
(17 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Q9550 OC @ 3.82GHz Gigabyte EP45-DS4P MSI GTX 670 Power Edition G.Skill DDR2 800 PC2 6400 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOS
Western Digital 7200 RPM Seagate 7200 RPM Pioneer DVR-115D Windows 7 Ultimate x64 
MonitorPowerCaseAudio
Samsung SyncMaster 205BW OCZ 750W Cooler Master Cosmos 1000 Klipsch ProMedia Ultra 2.0 
AudioOther
ASUS Xonar D1 24-bit PCI Sony MDR-R1 Silver Headphones 
  hide details  
Reply
My System
(17 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Q9550 OC @ 3.82GHz Gigabyte EP45-DS4P MSI GTX 670 Power Edition G.Skill DDR2 800 PC2 6400 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOS
Western Digital 7200 RPM Seagate 7200 RPM Pioneer DVR-115D Windows 7 Ultimate x64 
MonitorPowerCaseAudio
Samsung SyncMaster 205BW OCZ 750W Cooler Master Cosmos 1000 Klipsch ProMedia Ultra 2.0 
AudioOther
ASUS Xonar D1 24-bit PCI Sony MDR-R1 Silver Headphones 
  hide details  
Reply
post #52 of 65
Quote:
Originally Posted by freestyla85 View Post
not really ... it seems easy on paper but you have to know and be up to date with current tech to get the best out the money you put into it.

When I plan to buy any new hardware for my PC , I research it for a good few days and then make my decision. Otherwise you are bound to buy some overpriced component that maybe performs well but isn't worth it or it doesn't perform better or is unstable compared to a different unit / manufacturer.

You have to take into account alot of technical things, wattage, sockets, type of mobo ( O'cing or not?, amd vs intel) , CPU performance, GPU ( are you or planning to SLI, O'C, nvidia vs ati, low-mid-high range ) etc... and most importantly are the components you've chosen STABLE performance wise! then the money comes in to play later.. not an easy puzzle by any means
It is pretty easy actually
post #53 of 65
Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by jameschisholm View Post
I'm almost sure I read that both the PS4 and 720 will be AMD based?

If so I would reckon by the time they are released I'd say put an AMD Radeon HD 7850 1gb GPU in there and a quad-core CPU, with 4gb of RAM, plus start off with at least a 320gb HDD, with both having blu-ray, wifi n, and gigabit lan.
Would be lucky if it had the GPU power of a 6570. Consoles would never be that up to date.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Somenamehere View Post
Would be lucky if it had the GPU power of a 6570. Consoles would never be that up to date.
that's true they would never be that up do date, or at least they never have.(too expensive anyway)

The XBOX360 is basically using about an Ati x1900/1950 ( or Nvidia 7900GS compared ) People don't realize that consoles don't need the latest GPU's because they are not bogged down by an Operating System like Windows.

This is Why Console games look SIMILAR to high end PC's that cost three or four times more.

At the end of a Consoles lifecycle when it can no longer catch up with the PC, you will notice the PC market flourish for a year or two then back to the consoles again. (not like people aren't still using the PC's, it's just the cycle)

If a Console had a GTX580 and a Quad core and a PC had a GTX580 and a Quad Core. While the console would be more limited in ways, the Console could Outperform the PC by a Large amount.
Mostly because almost all of the processing power can be used for just the game which would be specifically programmed to run solely on one piece of hardware only.
Edited by OptimusPrime - 10/27/11 at 9:21pm
Sky Lynx
(16 items)
 
Metroplex
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 3570k@ 4800mhz  ASUS P8Z68-V PRO 2x ASUS GTX 670 DC2 4gb SLI Corsair Vengeance 16GB 1600mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
OCZ-AGILITY III 120gb WD Caviar Black 1 TB - 300 MBps - 7200 rpm LG GH22NS70 Super Multi - DVD±RW Corsair H80 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Win 7 Ultimate Dell UltraSharp IPS U2713HM Black & Silver 27 Acer 24" TN(crap) V243H 2ms 1080p  Dell IPS UltraSharp U2713HM Black & Silver 27" 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair 1050w modular Corsair 600-T White Razer Deathadder 3500dpi Large Cloth 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
E8400 3.0Ghz @ 4.0Ghz - CO (co suks) Asus P5n-e SLI GTX 460 1gb / gtx275 / x1650backup Corsair 2x1 GB XMSII 800 @ 1100mhz 5-5-5-15 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
Seagate 250 , WD sata 500, WD 80 WinXP/Win 7 Ultimate 64bit 24" 2ms Acer 1920x1080 (V243HAJbd) 750w Corsair TX 
CaseMouseMouse Pad
Cooler Master 690 Razer Deathadder 3600Dpi 17 x 14 cloth 
  hide details  
Reply
Sky Lynx
(16 items)
 
Metroplex
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 3570k@ 4800mhz  ASUS P8Z68-V PRO 2x ASUS GTX 670 DC2 4gb SLI Corsair Vengeance 16GB 1600mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
OCZ-AGILITY III 120gb WD Caviar Black 1 TB - 300 MBps - 7200 rpm LG GH22NS70 Super Multi - DVD±RW Corsair H80 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Win 7 Ultimate Dell UltraSharp IPS U2713HM Black & Silver 27 Acer 24" TN(crap) V243H 2ms 1080p  Dell IPS UltraSharp U2713HM Black & Silver 27" 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair 1050w modular Corsair 600-T White Razer Deathadder 3500dpi Large Cloth 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
E8400 3.0Ghz @ 4.0Ghz - CO (co suks) Asus P5n-e SLI GTX 460 1gb / gtx275 / x1650backup Corsair 2x1 GB XMSII 800 @ 1100mhz 5-5-5-15 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
Seagate 250 , WD sata 500, WD 80 WinXP/Win 7 Ultimate 64bit 24" 2ms Acer 1920x1080 (V243HAJbd) 750w Corsair TX 
CaseMouseMouse Pad
Cooler Master 690 Razer Deathadder 3600Dpi 17 x 14 cloth 
  hide details  
Reply
post #54 of 65
Quote:
Originally Posted by OptimusPrime View Post
that's true they would never be that up do date, or at least they never have.(too expensive anyway)

The XBOX360 is basically using about an Ati x1900/1950 ( or Nvidia 7900GS compared ) People don't realize that consoles don't need the latest GPU's because they are not bogged down by an Operating System like Windows.

This is Why Console games look SIMILAR to high end PC's that cost three or four times more.

At the end of a Consoles lifecycle when it can no longer catch up with the PC, you will notice the PC market flourish for a year or two then back to the consoles again. (not like people aren't still using the PC's, it's just the cycle)

If a Console had a GTX580 and a Quad core and a PC had a GTX580 and a Quad Core. While the console would be more limited in ways, the Console could Outperform the PC by a Large amount.
Mostly because almost all of the processing power can be used for just the game which would be specifically programmed to run solely on one piece of hardware only.
While I agree with everything you just said, I'm mystified by your random word capitalization.
Foldatron
(17 items)
 
Mat
(10 items)
 
Work iMac
(9 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7 950 EVGA x58 3-way SLI EVGA GTX 660ti GTX 275 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
3x2GB Corsair Dominator DDR3-1600 80GB Intel X25-M SSD 2TB WD Black 150GB WD Raptor 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
2x 150GB WD V-raptor in RAID0 Win7 Home 64-bit OEM 55" LED 120hz 1080p Vizio MS Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 
PowerCase
750W PC P&C Silencer CoolerMaster 690 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel Core i5 2500S AMD 6770M 8GB (2x4GB) at 1333Mhz 1TB, 7200 rpm 
Optical DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
LG 8X Dual-Layer "SuperDrive" OS X Lion 27" iMac screen Mac wireless keyboard 
Mouse
Mac wireless mouse 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
i7-2600K AMD 6970M 1GB 16GB PC3-10600 DDR3 1TB 7200rpm 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
256GB SSD 8x DL "SuperDrive" OS X 10.7 Lion 27" 2560x1440 iMac display 
Monitor
27" Apple thunderbolt display 
  hide details  
Reply
Foldatron
(17 items)
 
Mat
(10 items)
 
Work iMac
(9 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7 950 EVGA x58 3-way SLI EVGA GTX 660ti GTX 275 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
3x2GB Corsair Dominator DDR3-1600 80GB Intel X25-M SSD 2TB WD Black 150GB WD Raptor 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
2x 150GB WD V-raptor in RAID0 Win7 Home 64-bit OEM 55" LED 120hz 1080p Vizio MS Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 
PowerCase
750W PC P&C Silencer CoolerMaster 690 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel Core i5 2500S AMD 6770M 8GB (2x4GB) at 1333Mhz 1TB, 7200 rpm 
Optical DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
LG 8X Dual-Layer "SuperDrive" OS X Lion 27" iMac screen Mac wireless keyboard 
Mouse
Mac wireless mouse 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
i7-2600K AMD 6970M 1GB 16GB PC3-10600 DDR3 1TB 7200rpm 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
256GB SSD 8x DL "SuperDrive" OS X 10.7 Lion 27" 2560x1440 iMac display 
Monitor
27" Apple thunderbolt display 
  hide details  
Reply
post #55 of 65
Quote:
Originally Posted by lordikon View Post
While I agree with everything you just said, I'm mystified by your random word capitalization.
Hahaha LMAO !!
wowyour right
I think it's a bad message board habbit i'm forming
I have to stop replying to youtube video's lol
Sky Lynx
(16 items)
 
Metroplex
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 3570k@ 4800mhz  ASUS P8Z68-V PRO 2x ASUS GTX 670 DC2 4gb SLI Corsair Vengeance 16GB 1600mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
OCZ-AGILITY III 120gb WD Caviar Black 1 TB - 300 MBps - 7200 rpm LG GH22NS70 Super Multi - DVD±RW Corsair H80 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Win 7 Ultimate Dell UltraSharp IPS U2713HM Black & Silver 27 Acer 24" TN(crap) V243H 2ms 1080p  Dell IPS UltraSharp U2713HM Black & Silver 27" 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair 1050w modular Corsair 600-T White Razer Deathadder 3500dpi Large Cloth 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
E8400 3.0Ghz @ 4.0Ghz - CO (co suks) Asus P5n-e SLI GTX 460 1gb / gtx275 / x1650backup Corsair 2x1 GB XMSII 800 @ 1100mhz 5-5-5-15 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
Seagate 250 , WD sata 500, WD 80 WinXP/Win 7 Ultimate 64bit 24" 2ms Acer 1920x1080 (V243HAJbd) 750w Corsair TX 
CaseMouseMouse Pad
Cooler Master 690 Razer Deathadder 3600Dpi 17 x 14 cloth 
  hide details  
Reply
Sky Lynx
(16 items)
 
Metroplex
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 3570k@ 4800mhz  ASUS P8Z68-V PRO 2x ASUS GTX 670 DC2 4gb SLI Corsair Vengeance 16GB 1600mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
OCZ-AGILITY III 120gb WD Caviar Black 1 TB - 300 MBps - 7200 rpm LG GH22NS70 Super Multi - DVD±RW Corsair H80 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Win 7 Ultimate Dell UltraSharp IPS U2713HM Black & Silver 27 Acer 24" TN(crap) V243H 2ms 1080p  Dell IPS UltraSharp U2713HM Black & Silver 27" 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair 1050w modular Corsair 600-T White Razer Deathadder 3500dpi Large Cloth 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
E8400 3.0Ghz @ 4.0Ghz - CO (co suks) Asus P5n-e SLI GTX 460 1gb / gtx275 / x1650backup Corsair 2x1 GB XMSII 800 @ 1100mhz 5-5-5-15 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
Seagate 250 , WD sata 500, WD 80 WinXP/Win 7 Ultimate 64bit 24" 2ms Acer 1920x1080 (V243HAJbd) 750w Corsair TX 
CaseMouseMouse Pad
Cooler Master 690 Razer Deathadder 3600Dpi 17 x 14 cloth 
  hide details  
Reply
post #56 of 65
I'd like to see some variations in hardware from Microsoft and Sony this time around.
As an example, an entry model that has a quad @ 2.0-2.4GHz, 6850, 2GB of ram, 80GB HDD and an 'Elite' model with a higher binned quad over 3.0GHz, 6970, 4GB's of ram and a 250GB HDD.

If consoles start using mainstream processors and hardware, all 4 systems (Wii, XBox, PS, PC) become interchangeable and less proprietary to develop games for - give the Elite users a graphical and resolution fidelity preset or just let the user turn graphic options on/off as we do with PC games. Consoles last longer - upgrade the CPU, add ram, add/change the HDD, change the video card. Though I honestly think pairing video cards is taking it a step too far for the home user or non enthusiast when you consider power usage and the current problems we can have with more than one card even at this day and age.

What would be fantastic is if the user had the option to build their console (far fetched thinking atm) or buy a pre-built from Sony/MS itself.
Sony and Microsoft puts together a Blue Ray drive + O/S + gamepad + perks marketable package. You choose which package you want, install it in the machine and get the online benefits/exclusives/ect to which the specific vendor has to offer. The focus shifts towards their software and exclusives. Many people already have a middle of the road worthy gaming computer as it is, no need to purchase a 20lbs hunk of finger print fuzz collecting piano black reflective plastic (what a load of crap to keep that thing clean) just to get to the XBox Marketplace.
Sony and Microsoft technically loose money or barely break even on consoles anyhow, why not open some of the gaming population to home building and purchasing a package at their profit? I'm sure some console gamers would love to build their own system and would easily pay for an mildly overpriced BR drive O/S package just to do so, I know I would, and you have all the existing PC users that you can now market toward.
Wishful thinking.

It will happen someday, most likely cross-software.
Edited by pengs - 10/27/11 at 11:27pm
post #57 of 65
Quote:
Originally Posted by pengs View Post
I'd like to see some variations in hardware from Microsoft and Sony this time around.
As an example, an entry model that has a quad @ 2.0-2.4GHz, 6850, 2GB of ram, 80GB HDD and an 'Elite' model with a higher binned quad over 3.0GHz, 6970, 4GB's of ram and a 250GB HDD.

If consoles start using mainstream processors and hardware, all 4 systems (Wii, XBox, PS, PC) become interchangeable and less proprietary to develop games for - give the Elite users a graphical and resolution fidelity preset or just let the user turn graphic options on/off as we do with PC games.

What would be fantastic is if the user had the option to build their console (far fetched thinking atm) or buy a pre-built from Sony/MS itself.
Sony and Microsoft puts together a Blue Ray drive + O/S + gamepad marketable package. You choose which package you want, install it in the machine and get the online benefits/exclusives/ect to which the specific vendor has to offer. Sony and Microsoft technically loose money on consoles anyhow, why not open some of the gaming population to home building and purchasing a package at their profit? I'm sure some gamers would love to build their own system and would easily pay for an mildly overpriced BR drive O/S package just to do so, I know I would.
Wishful thinking.

It will happen someday, most likely cross-software.
That is a terrible idea, and defeats the purpose of a gaming console. If you want something like that... stick to PC gaming
post #58 of 65
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirby1 View Post
Dice hint that the next console may be made of more traditional PC components.
Likely the next Xbox. I'd call it the XBOX Tre
Kilo 3.0
(20 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 2500K Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3P HIS HD6970 1GB 8GB G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
OCZ Vertex 3 Seagate Barricuda Seagate GoFlex WD Passport 
Optical DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
Lite-On BD-RW ASUS DVD-RW Cooler Master H80 Arctic Cooling Twin Turbo II 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 8 Pro 25" Hanns.G K710 Corsair TX750 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Cooler Master 690 M710 XTrac Ripper Logitech 540 
  hide details  
Reply
Kilo 3.0
(20 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 2500K Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3P HIS HD6970 1GB 8GB G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
OCZ Vertex 3 Seagate Barricuda Seagate GoFlex WD Passport 
Optical DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
Lite-On BD-RW ASUS DVD-RW Cooler Master H80 Arctic Cooling Twin Turbo II 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 8 Pro 25" Hanns.G K710 Corsair TX750 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Cooler Master 690 M710 XTrac Ripper Logitech 540 
  hide details  
Reply
post #59 of 65
Quote:
Originally Posted by OptimusPrime View Post
The XBOX360 is basically using about an Ati x1900/1950 ( or Nvidia 7900GS compared ) People don't realize that consoles don't need the latest GPU's because they are not bogged down by an Operating System like Windows.
When the 360 launched, those were around the highest end GPUs...Hence why a GTX 580 could fit in a new console, along with a quad core.
And the 360 actually has a faster and more advanced GPU than the x1950s, it has tessellation and the eDRAM, as well as general purpose shaders instead of vertex and pixel shaders. (Which is why the 8800GTX was so fast vs a 7950GTX)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirby1 View Post
Dice hint that the next console may be made of more traditional PC components.
Just like the original Xbox being a custom P3 and custom GeForce3.
My system
(22 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 3770k @ 4.7Ghz ASRock Z77 Pro3 Powercolor Radeon HD7950 3GB @ 1150/1350 4x4GB G.Skill Ares 2000Mhz CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Samsung 840 250GB Western Digital Black 1TB WD1002FAEX Samsung Spinpoint EcoGreen 2TB Pioneer DVR-220LBKS 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
Noctua NH-D14 Scythe Gentle Typhoon 1850rpm Corsair AF140 Quiet Edition Arch Linux x86-64, amdgpu 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 10 Bloatfree Edition BenQ G2220HD BenQ G2020HD Ducky Shine III Year of the Snake, Cherry Blue 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Silverstone Strider Plus 600w Lian Li Lancool PC-K60 SteelSeries Sensei Professional Artisan Hien Mid Japan Black Large 
AudioOther
ASUS Xonar DX NZXT Sentry Mesh 30w Fan Controller 
  hide details  
Reply
My system
(22 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 3770k @ 4.7Ghz ASRock Z77 Pro3 Powercolor Radeon HD7950 3GB @ 1150/1350 4x4GB G.Skill Ares 2000Mhz CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Samsung 840 250GB Western Digital Black 1TB WD1002FAEX Samsung Spinpoint EcoGreen 2TB Pioneer DVR-220LBKS 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
Noctua NH-D14 Scythe Gentle Typhoon 1850rpm Corsair AF140 Quiet Edition Arch Linux x86-64, amdgpu 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 10 Bloatfree Edition BenQ G2220HD BenQ G2020HD Ducky Shine III Year of the Snake, Cherry Blue 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Silverstone Strider Plus 600w Lian Li Lancool PC-K60 SteelSeries Sensei Professional Artisan Hien Mid Japan Black Large 
AudioOther
ASUS Xonar DX NZXT Sentry Mesh 30w Fan Controller 
  hide details  
Reply
post #60 of 65
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhRe4k View Post
That is a terrible idea, and defeats the purpose of a gaming console. If you want something like that... stick to PC gaming
Yeah but you get their exclusives and O/S... and online experience...
Heh... yah, it's a bad idea
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Video Game News
Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Video Game News › [EG]DICE talks next-gen Xbox and PS4