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How many instances of ULPS you edited? I guess only one. You have to edit all of them. There's no other reason for the crash other than that.

Edit: Your PSU might not cut it when the system into full load.

Reset your GPU Overclock to default <---------------------

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Nope sorry, all instances, triple checked with F3. I don't mean to offend or anything, but I do know these little things about tweaking ATI GPU's. Been on ATI since the 4870x2, so I've had to deal with driver issues in the past.

Anyway, my PSU is fine. FurMark/Prime/IBT stable 24/7. Neither do any of my other games.

Tried running my GPU on stock and still have the problem. It's definitely just BF3 which is why I'm so dumbfounded.
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Nope sorry, all instances, triple checked with F3. I don't mean to offend or anything, but I do know these little things about tweaking ATI GPU's. Been on ATI since the 4870x2, so I've had to deal with driver issues in the past.

Anyway, my PSU is fine. FurMark/Prime/IBT stable 24/7. Neither do any of my other games.

Tried running my GPU on stock and still have the problem. It's definitely just BF3 which is why I'm so dumbfounded.
Did you try taking out your PhysX card uninstalling the Nvidia driver? It's a long shot, but you you never know when you've got multiple drivers installed.
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Nope sorry, all instances, triple checked with F3. I don't mean to offend or anything, but I do know these little things about tweaking ATI GPU's. Been on ATI since the 4870x2, so I've had to deal with driver issues in the past.

Anyway, my PSU is fine. FurMark/Prime/IBT stable 24/7. Neither do any of my other games.

Tried running my GPU on stock and still have the problem. It's definitely just BF3 which is why I'm so dumbfounded.
My sig rig has some similarities with yours. I have the same crashing problems. I have not tried the WHQL 11.10 yet. Although they say it is the same as the preview V3. Also I don't get the proper scaling when both GPUs are being utilized. When only one gpu is being used, I get no such stutter. 6990 has been having problems with scaling supposedly. Problems that dual 6970s may or may not have.

Very strange.
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My sig rig has some similarities with yours. I have the same crashing problems. I have not tried the WHQL 11.10 yet. Although they say it is the same as the preview V3. Also I don't get the proper scaling when both GPUs are being utilized. When only one gpu is being used, I get no such stutter. 6990 has been having problems with scaling supposedly. Problems that dual 6970s may or may not have.

Very strange.
During the few times which I have been able to play the campaign, I got excellent scaling between GPU's and around 70-90fps average maxed with 4xMSAA...

...Which is a shame, really since with all the crashing and hanging, I don't get to play it anymore.

I'll try taking out my PhysX card and see what happens.
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The WQHL driver is not the drivers we are looking for. They are exactly the same as the 11.10 v3 preview. 11.11 drivers are hopefully going to fix the crossfire issues, because right now crossfire is a total mess on my 6990. The game runs better with one gpu enabled on my 6990 even though the FPS is higher when both GPUs are enabled. How so? Because having 2 GPUs enabled brings in that stuttering feeling and jerkiness.
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From battlelog.

For x64, proceed to step 2.


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NOT 100% GUARANTEED, BUT PRETTY GOOD NONETHELESS - MANY PEOPLE REPORTING SUCCESS.

*******************32BIT ONLY - SORRY TO 64BIT USERS***********************

I've been having the crash problem - games in MP crashing in ~5mins, and SP crashing every so often. Found the solution from another game actually where I was having a similar problem - Empire: Total War.

BE AWARE, THIS IS ONLY A WORKAROUND - THE ISSUE STILL NEEDS TO BE FIXED. THIS IS A FIX FOR THOSE RUNNING 32BIT WINDOWS 7 AND WINDOWS VISA WITH 4GB RAM OR MORE.

From here on, I'm copy-pasting the instructions. This works for both Vista and W7. Got me through 20mins of MP for the first time though - longest game I've had. Haven't tested for longer.


What does it do?
It has to do two things that both rely on each other to work. For 32 bit operating systems we have to tell the operating system it can use more than 2GB user address space, 2.5GB actually, while leaving 1.5Gb for the kernel. We also have to set the Empire.exe executable to be allowed to address beyond the 2GB ceiling. 64 bit OS users don't have to do anything.

What does it help with?
This is not the solution for all crashes. It deals primarily with the crash to desktop that is caused by lack of virtual address space.Due to the unique nature of how addresses are mapped differently on each machine this crash may happen at different places and times of the game, even loading a map, menu or waiting on an AI turn. If you try this fix, and you follow directions properly, and it doesn't help you then your crash is due to something else.

How do I do it?
Follow directions explicitly. I have seen people consistently skip steps or not read the directions properly so it doesn't work for them whne they don't do what it says. it's not as complicated as it sounds, I'm just being thorough.

APPLY THE WORKAROUND (juicy caramel center)

Requirements

Only real requirements is that you have atleast 2GB RAM. You don't need beyond that even though we are allowing addressing up to 2.5 GB. Also following instructions and being somewhat familiar with working with files in windows is required. Make sure you are using Vista SP1. If not then you need this hotfix that fixes a major blunder with Vista address space - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/940105 [support.microsoft.com]
That's all, follow the 3 steps.

1) Prepare the operating system to be able to use beyone 2GB address space with a userva of 2.5GB (only 32 bit OS's need to do this): I am purposely using only 2500 for userva for specific reasons and any more will likely not be needed, as a result the kernel will have plenty of space to play in.

All 64 bit OS's
Nothing to do on the OS. Proceed to step 2 on setting the executable. 64 bit OS's running 32 bit binaries are also limited to 2GB application space.

XP 32
* Find your Boot.ini located usually on the C:.
If you cannot see it, you probably have system files hidden, then follow these instructions at microsoft (also uncheck "hide protected operating system files")
* Right click on the boot.ini and choose properties. Uncheck "read only"
* Open the boot.ini by double clicking it.
* Under the section called find the line that says "multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Windows XP Professional...". Yours may look a bit different. We are going to make a duplicate, so that if you make a mistake you will not harm yourself from booting into your computer. Drag you're mouse across the entire line, right click and choose copy. Then right below the line you just copied right click your mouse and choose paste. You should now have two lines one after another that are exact duplicates.
* Change the bottom line that you just copied with the following addition on the end. Add a space at the end of the line and then this without the quotes "/3GB /USERVA=2500"
* In that lower boot entry you just made, find the name of the operating system in quotes and change it to something like "Windows XP 3GB", so you can differentiate at boot up.
* Close and save the boot.ini.
* Right click on the boot.ini, hit properties, check read only.

Windows 7/Windows Vista <~~~~~ Step 2
* In Windows 7/Vista go to Start menu. Go to Accessories. Locate the command prompt shortcut and hover mouse over it. Right Click on the shortcut then select Run as Administrator.
* In the command prompt type this exactly: bcdedit /set increaseuserva 2500. Then hit enter.
* Make sure you get a message back confirming the change was made. To verify the entry is there you can type just bcdedit, hit enter, and you should see the entry now listed.
* Then close the command prompt. You just told Vista to increase user virtual address (userva) space to 2500MB.
* Changes take effect on reboot but don't reboot yet.

SUMMARY
We extended the user virtual address space in XP, Vista and 7 to 2500MB, so now applications can utilize up to that much if they are set to be Large Address Aware. While some 32 bit games/applications are set, Empire is not.

2) Now reboot the PC because Windows needs to set the userva at 2500 which only happens after startup.

If you skip any step it will not work. When you have rebooted you should be good to go. Run the game as normal with the original game shortcut.

TO UNDO THE CHANGES
For the XP 32 bit just delete the line from your boot.ini.
For Vista 32 Open command prompt as administrator and type: bcdedit /deletevalue increaseuserva. That deletes the entry.
Reboot and you are back to normal.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE IF THIS WORKS COME BACK AND BUMP TO HELP OTHERS

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Hey guys, so what i am about to explain is a modified version of striker475's fix, now be warned that if your computer is not similar to mine, it will be difficult to fix this, however i thing the GPU in this case does not matter.

Ok so if you red Striker475's post you will know all about doing this:
SUMMARY
We extended the user virtual address space in XP, Vista and 7 to 3000MB, so now applications can utilize up to that much if they are set to be Large Address Aware. While some 32 bit games/applications are set, Empire is not.
Here is the link in case you want to try his too: http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/forum/threadview/2832654489427021500/ [battlelog.battlefield.com]

The problem i was encountering was crashes ever 2-4 maps at random points, remember THIS IS A SPECIFIC FIX! so it might not work for you

Now this fix once again works only for 32 BIT

My system is :
Windows 7 32 bit
Nvidia EVGA 590GTX
4gigs of ram
Intel I7 quad core
and a ASrock motherbord

SO LETS GET STARTED!
THE ONLY THING YOU NEED TO CHANGE IS THE 2500MB PART!!
Windows 7/Windows Vista
* In Windows 7/Vista go to Start menu. Go to Accessories. Locate the command prompt shortcut and hover mouse over it. Right Click on the shortcut then select Run as Administrator.
* In the command prompt type this exactly: bcdedit /set increaseuserva 3000. Then hit enter.
* Make sure you get a message back confirming the change was made. To verify the entry is there you can type just bcdedit, hit enter, and you should see the entry now listed.
* Then close the command prompt. You just told Vista to increase user virtual address (userva) space to 3000MB.
* Changes take effect on reboot but don't reboot yet.

For some reason when i set it to 3000 my game stopped crashing all together, earlier i played around 20 maps!!! with no crashes what so ever!

Hope it helps some of you

Also i will not be held responsible for any problems your computer encounters, Setting your ram to utilize 3000mb can make weaker computers unstable, so BE WARNED!
also thanks to Striker475 for the original post
-Undead

Edited by Ken1649 - 1/24/12 at 7:58am
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Thought I should tell you guys what the problem was. Apparently, it was the 11.10 driver series giving me headaches. I just realized I had completely skipped a month and went from 11.8 to 11.10 Previews/WHQL. Tried 11.9 on a whim, no CAP's, and it's just butter smooth gaming with no more freezes or black screens.

Only issue left now is that it hangs sometimes if I change video settings. Turning MSAA on forces me to Alt+Enter twice to get Crossfire to kick in. That and I lost a few frames from when the 11.10 + 11.9 CAP4 combo did work, but it's all worth it as I can finally play this damn game.
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I was too scared to suggest it to you because you said you knew everything about graphics related & drivers.
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Thought I should tell you guys what the problem was. Apparently, it was the 11.10 driver series giving me headaches. I just realized I had completely skipped a month and went from 11.8 to 11.10 Previews/WHQL. Tried 11.9 on a whim, no CAP's, and it's just butter smooth gaming with no more freezes or black screens.

Only issue left now is that it hangs sometimes if I change video settings. Turning MSAA on forces me to Alt+Enter twice to get Crossfire to kick in. That and I lost a few frames from when the 11.10 + 11.9 CAP4 combo did work, but it's all worth it as I can finally play this damn game.
I recommend you leave MSAA disabled and just use High Post AA instead. For some reason MSAA in BF3 kills performance on AMD cards. It doesn't bother me too much since the game still looks great with Post AA only.
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Hi there, i finished bf3 single player pretty short game for single anyway. In my cross only 1 gpu made all the job and the master was idle!!!. When i pressed alt+tab to check the gpu load with gpuz the gpu load changed from the 2 one to the master, second card as a master gpu?, noway! WTH!. Im trying catalyst 11.11b and it still doing the same annoying thing. Whats wrong with the drivers??. I dont have msi afterburner installed, just catalyst 11.11b from a clean install. What would it be then?. Anyone here experiencing bad CROSSFIRE performance, only 1 gpu working, in my case the 2 one's doing all the job, crap!.-mad.gif getting tired of this.
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