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Not sure if anyone said this yet but landing in mid air. Ok I see this being semi-possible.

How the hell are you going to exit said plane though?
    
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Originally Posted by SS_Patrick View Post
Not sure if anyone said this yet but landing in mid air. Ok I see this being semi-possible.

How the hell are you going to exit said plane though?
Do you not see the huge transparent windscreen? It's no different than one you would find on a crotch rocket aside from scale; in that it would direct airflow over and around the various objects and people below it.

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What about landing a plane? How do you expect to land a plane on that and keep it stable? It's hard enough on an aircraft carrier. It's only going to get harder on that considering how fast it is travelling. Can an expert *cough*deadbydraino*cough* clarify this?
What Sgthop said . The only other issue I see is passing through the faster moving air flowing over the top of the windscreen. That would happen just before you enter ground effect (phenomena where when you are 2 times the distance of your wingspan from the ground, your lift increases).

Problem with that is if you are coming in on a glide slope, you will hit that portion just before the runway where you will have a very notable increase in lift and/or turbulence. Any drastic change to flight characteristics are potentially dangerous, but I'm not certain how much greater the airspeed would be in that effect.

As for getting this thing off the ground, IMO very doable via takeoff from calm seas. Also only really needs to be done once every couple of months, assuming it stays in the air besides maintenance and repairs.
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Originally Posted by deadbydraino View Post
What Sgthop said . The only other issue I see is passing through the faster moving air flowing over the top of the windscreen. That would happen just before you enter ground effect (phenomena where when you are 2 times the distance of your wingspan from the ground, your lift increases).

Problem with that is if you are coming in on a glide slope, you will hit that portion just before the runway where you will have a very notable increase in lift and/or turbulence. Any drastic change to flight characteristics are potentially dangerous, but I'm not certain how much greater the airspeed would be in that effect.
Thank you. I wondered whether that would happen.
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As for getting this thing off the ground, IMO very doable via takeoff from calm seas. Also only really needs to be done once every couple of months, assuming it stays in the air besides maintenance and repairs.
*repairs wing**falls out of sky.*

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The main problem is that so far no LENR device has been demonstrated that can be turned on and off at will.
*Falls out of sky* Captain: "Not again!"

EDIT: I assume you fly X-Plane. This would be an awesome aircraft to both fly and land other planes on it. I hope someone makes an X-Plane version.
Edited by asuperpower - 10/27/11 at 2:54am
   
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Imagine a flying Chernobyl
Now imagine a computer virus that crashes it in some country's capital
What a world we live in!
This is exactly what I mean when I say the word 'nuclear' makes people squeamish.


First of all the reason for the disaster at chernobyl was because it lacked rigorous safeties and a decent reactor containment vessel and were running physics experiments in the reactor that exploded.

Modern reactors have failsafes built into the fuel components, and you can bet a reactor built with as low standards as chernobyl would never be allowed off the ground.


If such a plane were to crash, the rest of the plane smashing into a city would make anything that happens to the reactor seem minor.

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....for the second time. Air resistance means you'll burn more fuel as opposed to in a vacuum. These won't stay in the air very long unless you use a different propulsion system or a different fuel all together.

The limiting factor to flight, by my understanding, is the amount of fuel, not the amount of energy you use to burn the fuel.
Fuel is a misnomer in this case. The fuel is what powers the nuclear reactor to generate the heat. The air is propellant which is acted upon by the engine to generate thrust. Air resistance shouldn't be a problem. Nuclear rockets and jets are fairly high thrust engines.



After noticing the windscreen, there is something I wonder? What the hell happens if a plane needs to wave off? There's a reason aircraft carriers have the end of the landing deck clear.
Edited by BirdofPrey - 10/27/11 at 6:03am
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Unfortunately, Ion propulsion systems would never produce enough power to maintain flight. The thrust from Ion engines are intended for spaceflight in a near frictionless environment. Overcoming wind resistance, atmospheric resistance etc would be impossible for those, at least in it's current application.

I do like the idea of the electrically powered low-bypass turbojet. Seems like it would be viable. A lot more work needs to be done on that subject though, since the only real application of electrically powered aircraft are all prop engines.
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what happened to big giant zeppelins? The military could use them for asymetric warfares against the likes of taliban or gaddafi.
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what happened to big giant zeppelins? The military could use them for asymetric warfares against the likes of taliban or gaddafi.
They have the top speed of like 20 MPH and Gaddafi is dead
    
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Also remember the actual size of the Reactor would be quite small. Most likely they would take designs from Submarines as their reactors are small yet provide more than adequate power for years of operation, about the size of a medium sized bathroom.

Also nuclear reactors don't use weapons grade materials, there is no bomb effect in the case of a meltdown. Chernobyl had a fire in the reactor which put nuclear isotopes into the air, there wasn't a nuke like explosion.
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This makes no sense, the last time the US tried a nuclear powered plane they found it was to heavy and didn't have enough power... So why would they use a low energy reactor? The Russians only got it to work by not shielding the reactor and running air through the reactors and contaminating the crew!
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