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I think a major concern should be how easy this bugger would be to shoot down.....
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If it hasn't been mentioned in the last 25 pages, what about the massive physical forces that wind/turbulence will have on something this big?
Engineering something that huge isn't a problem. The problem is, what will they build it out of? Even if crafted from the toughest alloys, it's size and resulting turbulence will cause it to flex/bend all over the place and fall apart. Metal has a limit to how much it can reinforce itself without being connected to the ground.
Supertankers and aircraft carriers have a fairly enclosed and rounded design, it allows them to take the full blow of the seas.
But this aircraft stretched far too thin over far too wide an area, strong gusts will simply rip it apart.
Edited by Tippy - 10/29/11 at 5:51pm
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LOL that thing looks like a giant kite.
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wouldn't it be more efficient to have a very large ship in low orbit, that has a hangar for aircraft to land.
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Originally Posted by ZealotKi11er View Post
(Anyone seen Macross)
Ya, it was the first anime series I ever watched

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wouldn't it be more efficient to have a very large ship in low orbit, that has a hangar for aircraft to land.
How hard is it to get a 747 into low orbit?
Edited by Joe! - 10/30/11 at 2:42pm
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Also remember the actual size of the Reactor would be quite small. Most likely they would take designs from Submarines as their reactors are small yet provide more than adequate power for years of operation, about the size of a medium sized bathroom.

Also nuclear reactors don't use weapons grade materials, there is no bomb effect in the case of a meltdown. Chernobyl had a fire in the reactor which put nuclear isotopes into the air, there wasn't a nuke like explosion.
Chernobyl was caused by a steam explosion that stemmed from numerous safety systems being disabled, and running for hours at dangerously low power causing a HUGE Xenon pit. Xenon-135 being a combustible nuclear poison that the RBMK-1000 (reactor in question) had no detection system for. The graphite tipped control rods (graphite being a moderator) were the last nail in Chernobyls coffin- when a SCRAM (emergency shutdown) was executed the power jumped at first when all the graphite tips hit. Well, needless to say the SCRAM button was pushed when there was a HUGE Xenon pit, and much cooling water present- the resulting jump in power caused the steam explosion that blew the top of the reactor off spewing fuel and irradiated chunks of graphite everywhere. Such a scenario is LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE to recreate with a modern light-water moderated reactor.

Modern reactors are all required to be slightly under-moderated, have a negative prompt-temperature coefficient, be at least partially light-water moderated, and be enclosed in containment structures that can withstand the effects of core damage.

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If it hasn't been mentioned in the last 25 pages, what about the massive physical forces that wind/turbulence will have on something this big?
Engineering something that huge isn't a problem. The problem is, what will they build it out of? Even if crafted from the toughest alloys, it's size and resulting turbulence will cause it to flex/bend all over the place and fall apart. Metal has a limit to how much it can reinforce itself without being connected to the ground.
Supertankers and aircraft carriers have a fairly enclosed and rounded design, it allows them to take the full blow of the seas.
But this aircraft stretched far too thin over far too wide an area, strong gusts will simply rip it apart.
I'm sure that would all be considered in a final design, not a concept drawing or artists interpretation. With carefully planned flight paths, a runway with a complete hydraulic/air suspension system, and a 3D segmented body these problems could potentially be eliminated. Airfoils and control flaps would adjust automatically to compensate for different conditions. A high enough cruising speed would eliminate the sensation of "gusts" hitting the craft since the speed of the air movement would have to overcome the speed of the craft to affect it.
Edited by 8ight - 10/31/11 at 7:42am
 
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Your words made my brain happy!
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still a scary taught that thing going down, because of the sheer size.
    
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still a scary taught that thing going down, because of the sheer size.
It would certainly not be a pleasant event, but since %75 of our planet is covered in water (making a crash into the sea most likely), it would be hard for this thing to lose power, and well-planned emergency procedures would no doubt be in place I wouldn't worry. If it was to hit land, it would be because of an EXTREMELY unlikely hijacking and its area of impact would no doubt be evacuated- it would move and turn too slow to NOT know where it would make landfall. Hopefully no civilians will be anywhere near the control deck. The personnel manning such a behemoth would no doubt have thorough training, and rigorous background checks before being allowed on board. Remote overrides and emergency protection systems would be too hard to break, and no military power would DARE touching it because of the threat of nuclear backlash.
 
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