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Originally Posted by Oupavoc;15446807 
Wouldnt the sheer size and wright makes this almost impossible to build and keep it im the sky?

Isn't it just a question of power? enough power would keep anything in the air.

Getting it in the air from the ground, standing however might take some doing, maybe they'll put the pieces together in space + just drop it from orbit?
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Originally Posted by Psykhotic;15446946 
It obv's won't fit in an airport however, look at cruise ships. If this was built as a seafaring craft it could be built in the dry docks that already exist and take off from sea. The ocean is a pretty big landing strip.

Beat me to it. One of the largest aircraft built to date is the Howard Hughes H4 Hercules, or Spruce Goose, a sea plane.

This would also not mark the first time that aircraft have launched from other aircraft.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Akron_%28ZRS-4%29
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With that size its impossible. That would take 100 year just in R&D. On top of that we never build something that big. If we are going to build something that big it better be for space (Anyone seen Macross)
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Originally Posted by DuckieHo;15447177 
My concern would be that this is an extremely complex machine. If downtime is needed or there is an issue,the thing cannot just stop like a ship or sub.

That too!

How much supplies will this carry? How much fuel for the airliners? How will it be resupplied? How will human and other waste be disposed of? What if a plane coming into land hits this craft?
    
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Originally Posted by Reslivo;15446910 
But what's the point?
Have this thing circle the world. Let planes land on it if they're going the same direction. You now only need the nuclear reactor for moving 50 planes at once thus saving fuel.
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Originally Posted by trueg50;15446893 
The thought in the 1950/60's was that big aircraft could be nuclear powered; the thought died quickly though after realizing they needed several feet of lead to protect the crew, and that plane crashes are common, and could dump lots of radioactive material all over the place. I wonder what nuclear reaction they are thinking of that can operate without shielding, or radioactive material?

Lead to protect the crew isn't a problem. This thing would be big enough to support other aircraft landing on it. I'll assume that they want normal 747's or something to land on it, so it'd need a strong, heavy exterior in the first place. And think of the scale. If it needs a runway, you'll already have a plane so gigantic that 10 meters would be nothing.
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post #36 of 250
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Originally Posted by Oupavoc;15446807 
Wouldnt the sheer size and wright makes this almost impossible to build and keep it im the sky?

Obviously not.

Aircraft can be made arbitrarily large. With enough power and lift, anything can fly.
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Originally Posted by Teppich;15446847 
If they make one and it crashes, I hope im not anywhere near it haha
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Originally Posted by Haze_hellivo;15446874 
I would like to see the airport for it to land,this doesnt seem like a good idea think of the consequences if it crashes.

You don't want to be any where near a fully fueled conventional airliner when it crashes either.
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Originally Posted by trueg50;15446893 
The thought in the 1950/60's was that big aircraft could be nuclear powered; the thought died quickly though after realizing they needed several feet of lead to protect the crew, and that plane crashes are common, and could dump lots of radioactive material all over the place. I wonder what nuclear reaction they are thinking of that can operate without shielding, or radioactive material?

Several feet of lead?

There have been reactors used to power subs and ships since the 50s that do not need any where near that kind of shielding.

The weight of old reactors and their shielding was prohibitive, but the real problem was the cost of making the power to weight ratio usable.
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Originally Posted by Reslivo;15446910 
But what's the point?

Efficiency.
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Originally Posted by Setzer;15447038 
Landing on a moving object (even a flying object) is no easy task, even if the aircraft could be built, it'd be a PIA to land on it.

Not any more so than landing on an aircraft carrier, and not with current levels of automation.
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Originally Posted by ZealotKi11er;15447244 
With that size its impossible. That would take 100 year just in R&D. On top of that we never build something that big. If we are going to build something that big it better be for space (Anyone seen Macross)

Not impossible. Bigger things have been built, and they did not take 100 years of R&D.

Biggest problem is by far the LENR. Everything else is fairly trivial.
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So basically, an airport with wings?

sounds like a good idea..

but there should be more than one.. tongue.gif
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Any risks this might (and will) have in my mind are instantly counteracted by my fascination and human pride. I want us to have this thing in the air. Obviously we don't want it taking off from JFK and flying past Boston and Chicago.. that's hardly the risk.
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Originally Posted by Blameless;15447341 
Several feet of lead?

There have been reactors used to power subs and ships since the 50s that do not need any where near that kind of shielding.

The weight of old reactors and their shielding was prohibitive, but the real problem was the cost of making the power to weight ratio usable.



Efficiency.

Actually, one of the big issues way back when in trying to get the damn thing to work in theory was coming up with a way of transforming the thermal power of a nuclear source into propulsive energy for an aircraft. I don't think they ever came up with a plausible way to even do that, NVM the lift and power needs.
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Originally Posted by Oupavoc;15446807 
nuclear-aircraft-580x210.jpg

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Wouldnt the sheer size and wright makes this almost impossible to build and keep it im the sky?

That's what they said about the Titanic wink.gif
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