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post #11 of 56
Vsync locks the monitor to the card not the other way around, for example here is what the frame buffer might look like during playing with vsync enabled

frame 1
frame 2
frame 2 <- video card wasnt ready with new frame
frame 4
frame 5
frame 5 <- video card wasnt ready with new frame
frame 7

so basically it makes you skip frames to maintain sync, hence more fps = better because you skip less frames. There was some talk about lucid's new approach on vsync to make things better but until then you are stuck with the stupid system where even 120 fps doesn't guarantee you 60 fps on screen. Oh and btw - vsync does nothing to improve stuttering (in fact it might induce stuttering itself due to its skippidy nature), it just eliminates frame tearing from displaying half rendered frames
Edited by hazarada - 10/25/11 at 11:06am
post #12 of 56
Games do not provide a constant FPS (except for Rage). So when you say 60FPS, you probably mean average or max. A person will find it difficult to tell the difference between 50FPS and 60FPS.... but more likely to notice a dip from 60FPS to 50FPS.

So it is good to have your minimum FPS at 60FPS on a 60Hz monitor.
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It has nothing to do with the refresh rate of your monitor, the stuttering that is. It has to do with the game and drivers.
    
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DuckieHo;15449051 
Games do not provide a constant FPS (except for Rage). So when you say 60FPS, you probably mean average or max. A person will find it difficult to tell the difference between 50FPS and 60FPS.... but more likely to notice a dip from 60FPS to 50FPS.

So it is good to have your minimum FPS at 60FPS on a 60Hz monitor.

Yes you cannot tell the difference in individual frames but you will notice a difference in how smooth the picture looks. Generally, if software and hardware is newer (along with game), frames exceeding 100fps will not cause screen tearing on a 60Hz monitor
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post #15 of 56
Quote:
Originally Posted by IceColdBrewski;15449106 
Yes you cannot tell the difference in individual frames but you will notice a difference in how smooth the picture looks. Generally, if software and hardware is newer (along with game), frames exceeding 100fps will not cause screen tearing on a 60Hz monitor

If vsync isn't on, it doesn't matter how NEW the game or hardware is, it's gonna tear, it has no other option.
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post #16 of 56
Quote:
Originally Posted by y2kcamaross;15449161 
If vsync isn't on, it doesn't matter how NEW the game or hardware is, it's gonna tear, it has no other option.

That's not true at all lol. Its subjective to each persons rig and specs. I get no tearing on any game I play with vsync off.
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post #17 of 56
It's simple: I play ALWAYS vsync on (to be sure there's no tearing)

If the fps is to low, disable vsync.

But if it starts tearing, enable vsync again, but lower your settings so the fps will go up again. (its best to TRY to keep everything maxed out and lower the resolution... See what that gives for fps and if you like it, keep it wink.gif)
Or if you need the high res (e.g. for an overview of the map) keep the high res and lower detail settings like AF and AA and stuff

If you don't like it at all? Upgrade hardware tongue.gif
Edited by ASUSfreak - 10/25/11 at 11:22am
   
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post #18 of 56
Quote:
Originally Posted by ASUSfreak;15449281 
If you don't like it at all? Upgrade hardware tongue.gif

^ this. plain and simple. no tearing
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post #19 of 56
Quote:
Originally Posted by IceColdBrewski;15449191 
That's not true at all lol. Its subjective to each persons rig and specs. I get no tearing on any game I play with vsync off.

Then you must not be getting over 60 fps.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by y2kcamaross;15449455 
Then you must not be getting over 60 fps.

I definitely am. Ya know this whole crossfire scaling thing. I get over 100fps on most games. if not then high 80's as avg.

EDIT: my cards are OC's to the max right now. Everything just works for me. Some stutter on older games but ALL new games show NO signs of tearing and getting FPS well above 60 as i dont use VSYNC
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