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So I guess I'm one of the few people that understands how to use a thermostat? LOL sadly it's not a skill that generates money.
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thats soo sick, im def getting that when i move pretty soon

LOL wouldnt it be funny if it had a "shuffle" option where it changes temps radically every 5 mins
Move to Wisconsin, that happens normally lol.
    
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Cool, I should install one in my mum's house. Just have to hook it up to a robot that can throw another log on the fire...

I kid I kid, it looks like a very useful invention. With the way a lot of people don't have a fixed schedule, or one that varies through the week, this could help save a lot of power and money. It is a simple idea, admittedly with a complex execution, but most simple ideas are not so simple until someone spends a lot of time thinking them up.


I still prefer my method though; start folding on my rig and wear a nice thick hoodie until the apartment warms up (I live in a very small place). Heating the home whilst helping to cure cancer seems quite efficient.
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I'm not sure if it's just because I live in a very temperate part of the world or what, but i've never been less impressed with a product.

Am i missing something big here?
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I still prefer my method though; start folding on my rig and wear a nice thick hoodie until the apartment warms up (I live in a very small place). Heating the home whilst helping to cure cancer seems quite efficient.
Indeed.
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I'm not sure if it's just because I live in a very temperate part of the world or what, but i've never been less impressed with a product.

Am i missing something big here?
Not really...they just took one aspect of a "Smart House" and added it to a funky looking thermostat. I still want to know about this "AI" that supposedly knows if some one is home bit. That sounds a little freaky to be honest

My guess is that at best is uses the GPS in your smart phone to see if you are in the house and then sets the heat to what you have told to set it at if you are home. Something I'd disable pretty fast since I tend to leave my phone at home some times when I just don't want to be bothered (though my wife will have hers...mine just rings more with work stuff that I'd rather not even know about till I am at work or at least at my desk at home)
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A standardized device that is connected to the internet that knows when a significant percentage of the population will not be home? That sounds like a blackhat's dream.
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Not really...they just took one aspect of a "Smart House" and added it to a funky looking thermostat. I still want to know about this "AI" that supposedly knows if some one is home bit. That sounds a little freaky to be honest

My guess is that at best is uses the GPS in your smart phone to see if you are in the house and then sets the heat to what you have told to set it at if you are home. Something I'd disable pretty fast since I tend to leave my phone at home some times when I just don't want to be bothered (though my wife will have hers...mine just rings more with work stuff that I'd rather not even know about till I am at work or at least at my desk at home)
If you had actually bothered to read the article, you'd see that they explain that the device is packed with multiple IR sensors to detect people. Same thing as security lights above a garage, but they just managed to make the sensors really small.

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A standardized device that is connected to the internet that knows when a significant percentage of the population will not be home? That sounds like a blackhat's dream.
Well, said blackhat would still have to work out what IP address = what street address, but given that there are still a lot of address forms on the internet not protected with encryption, I imagine they could eventually packet-sniff out the majority of addresses.

Mmmmm, might not be such a good idea after all!
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A standardized device that is connected to the internet that knows when a significant percentage of the population will not be home? That sounds like a blackhat's dream.
Maybe, but on the other hand someone capable of hacking this system is probably not going to need to physically break into your home anyway. Also someone who is likely to break into said home is not going to go to all that effort to find out when you are at home when they can just use the tried and tested methods already available (fake deliveries / phone calls, sitting outside your house etc).

I agree that there is a potential security concern here, but homes have been broken into before this came along and they will continue to be broken into after. I don't think this device will change things significantly.

Remember, security only deters honest people and lazy criminals, although why an "honest" person would need any deterrent is beyond me...
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