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But does the Extreme4 have the NF200? I know the Extreme 6 and Extreme7 does

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No, but neither does the one in the OP. Here is an EVGA one that supports it
EVGA

ASRock Priced higher because of Z68 chipset.

Asus

In reality, he might see a decrease of about 2% if he goes with x8 solution rather than a x16 solution. In other words there is a small difference that is almost un-noticeable, maybe a 2-5 FPS increase, which is not really worth it imo.
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No, but neither does the one in the OP. Here is an EVGA one that supports it
EVGA

ASRock Priced higher because of Z68 chipset.

Asus

In reality, he might see a decrease of about 2% if he goes with x8 solution rather than a x16 solution. In other words there is a small difference that is almost un-noticeable, maybe a 2-5 FPS increase, which is not really worth it imo.

Yea thats what I am hearing.. nf200 is a nice idea but in reality it just isn't worth the extra cost at 5fps.. if the cost was a 30 buck difference the would say that is worth it... but at close to 100 in same or most cases 5fps will NOT be that huge of a gain.. just like HP lol. I am sure I can find another solution for a little cheaper that still has nice features. hmmm
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Yea thats what I am hearing.. nf200 is a nice idea but in reality it just isn't worth the extra cost at 5fps.. if the cost was a 30 buck difference the would say that is worth it... but at close to 100 in same or most cases 5fps will NOT be that huge of a gain.. just like HP lol. I am sure I can find another solution for a little cheaper that still has nice features. hmmm
It is only a $45 difference from your EVGA board to my Asus board. But about a $90 Difference from the Asus board to the Asrock Extreme4 board.
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It is only a $45 difference from your EVGA board to my Asus board. But about a $90 Difference from the Asus board to the Asrock Extreme4 board.
yea so it's *justifiable*? is that even a word lol... but yea.. 45 is not to bad..

I think the next question I need to ask myself... 2x6970's or 2x 580 3gbs..
Has nvidia fixed the scaling issues with the 580's? I assume they have... so whats the real numbers is the next question..

Benchies 2x6970 vs 2x 580 SLI 3gb... numbers anyone?
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yea so it's *justifiable*? is that even a word lol... but yea.. 45 is not to bad..

I think the next question I need to ask myself... 2x6970's or 2x 580 3gbs..
Has nvidia fixed the scaling issues with the 580's? I assume they have... so whats the real numbers is the next question..

Benchies 2x6970 vs 2x 580 SLI 3gb... numbers anyone?
Look like they go back and forth on games, here is a bench

Here is a single card comparison. But the results will differ when you add the second GPU.

Either way, you are going to be getting the best and the difference will more than likely not be noticeable.
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Power supply isn't enough. Contrary to what some users are saying, you're going to run into problems with only a 850W. If you look on Anandtech's bench section, they show total system power consumption for a variety of cards. Dual 580s clocks in at exactly 850W total system power consumption under Furmark. I'm not sure what CPU is used for that test, but those are with stock GPU clocks. When you start throwing in overclocking the CPU/GPU, along with possible water cooling, it's obvious that 850W isn't enough. I'd get at least a 1000W power supply if you're looking to do heavy overclocks.
    
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Power supply isn't enough. Contrary to what some users are saying, you're going to run into problems with only a 850W. If you look on Anandtech's bench section, they show total system power consumption for a variety of cards. Dual 580s clocks in at exactly 850W total system power consumption under Furmark. I'm not sure what CPU is used for that test, but those are with stock GPU clocks. When you start throwing in overclocking the CPU/GPU, along with possible water cooling, it's obvious that 850W isn't enough. I'd get at least a 1000W power supply if you're looking to do heavy overclocks.
Good thought if I am going to go with the 580's... Let me check the newegg PSU wattage thing....

Thanks!
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Good thought if I am going to go with the 580's... Let me check the newegg PSU wattage thing....

Thanks!
Don't use that, that is a terrible PSU calculator. A quality 850W is plenty,

These calculators are much more accurate.
http://www.overclock.net/power-suppl...l-release.html

http://extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine

Seriously though, a 700W will run your system with No overclocking. An 850W will let you OC till your hardware will not OC anymore.


EDIT:
Here it asked on OCN before. Look here


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I am running a single GTX 580 on a 850 PSU, and no problems what so ever. I would think you should fine fine if you PSU is a good one.
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A GTX 580 is a 250W card which in games/3DMark 11 etc uses about of 220W of power. CLICK HERE

So in short your CM 850W PSU is more than enough for that setup even with CPU and GPU overclocking..

CHEERS..

Edited by Ironman517 - 10/26/11 at 10:55am
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Don't use that, that is a terrible PSU calculator. A quality 850W is plenty,

These calculators are much more accurate.
http://www.overclock.net/power-suppl...l-release.html

http://extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine

Seriously though, a 700W will run your system with No overclocking. An 850W will let you OC till your hardware will not OC anymore.


EDIT:
Here it asked on OCN before. Look here
Yea I plan to OC both the GPU's and the CPU for sure.. I am still stuck on which 2 cards to get.. I made a case change that I feel is a better fit...
need help with the GPUs lol.. mobo is basically set atm... unless there is something out there that will just wow me
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are you going to be running multiple monitors? Or one large one?

I 100%endorse the Asrock Extreme4 Gen3
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