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post #1 of 25
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These are big rads but I'm wondering if one of these could handle a 570gtx + an overclocked 2600k. I'm assuming probably not, but I have seen people cool two 5870s at reasonable temps (~40oC) on the phobya alone.

The only reason the magicool is in the equation is because it is almost $35 cheaper than the phobya.

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/12103/ex-rad-186/Phobya_Xtreme_200mm_Radiator_Silverstone_Cooler_Master_Yate_Loon.html?tl=g30c95s1344

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14194/ex-rad-285/Magicool_Extreme_180mm_x_35mm_Slim_Radiator_MC-RADI180.html?tl=g30c95s1550

With the magicool I would be able to throw in an extra 120mm rad because it would cost the same as the phobya.


Any ideas?
-tamas
post #2 of 25
I think you get lower temps from the magicool with fans on push pull, yeah the Phobya is larger, thicker and a higher thermal capacity.
I've also seen a phobya 200 on a Ft03 case cooling the card and a cpu but not sure how well it overclocked.
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I have a 200 in my 650d in push pull with NZXT fans (custom plates needed to be made as the NZXT fans are 192mm).

With the 180's you'd have a nice fan for them, the silverstone AP's or the white 180's. they'd be nice bolt-on fans. The 200mm has wierd mounting plates and they are both for diffrent fans (so you need to make holes to mount the same type of fan to them.)
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post #4 of 25
A 180mm+120mm rad is better than just a 200mm Rad. Plus the static pressure of smaller fans outperforms the static pressure of larger fans, so air is forced through the fins better.

As for whether it would cool your setup, that is debatable. It is a little better than just a 240 rad. Usually the rule of thumb is one 120mm rad for each block cooled. However that is a general standard, and not taking into account overclocks. For your setup I'd see if you could fit an extra 120mm if you plan on doing a sizable overclock(4.5GHz+). Otherwise you may just barely making it smile.gif
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post #5 of 25
120.2 = 288 cm2
120.3 = 432 cm2
200.1 = 400 cm2
108.1 = 324 cm2

The 200mm Phobya is worth almost a 360, much better than a 240. And the 180 is still better than a 240. I'd go with a 180, and get two Silversone AP's as they have Max 1.1~2.45mmH2O static pressure, which is comparable to a GT AP-15.

If you can add a 120 or 240, you're golden and over rad'ed (if you can even say that).
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post #6 of 25
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Thanks for the input. I could always add the 120mm if I need it badly. I thinking about the phobya since I found it cheaper at performance pcs and I know that to be a good rad. I might only get one AP but use a spacer so that it can suck air across more rad surface.
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120.2 = 288 cm2
120.3 = 432 cm2
200.1 = 400 cm2
108.1 = 324 cm2

The 200mm Phobya is worth almost a 360, much better than a 240. And the 180 is still better than a 240. I'd go with a 180, and get two Silversone AP's as they have Max 1.1~2.45mmH2O static pressure, which is comparable to a GT AP-15.

If you can add a 120 or 240, you're golden and over rad'ed (if you can even say that).

Over-rad'ed? Oh, the heresy...

I was actually thinking about getting a Phobya 180mm fan for the radiator. I heard the AP's aren't all that great as rad fans
Edited by tamas - 10/26/11 at 2:45pm
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Originally Posted by tamas;15464794 
Thanks for the input. I could always add the 120mm if I need it badly. I thinking about the phobya since I found it cheaper at performance pcs and I know that to be a good rad. I might only get one AP but use a spacer so that it can suck air across more rad surface.



Over-rad'ed? Oh, the heresy...

I was actually thinking about getting a Phobya 180mm fan for the radiator. I heard the AP's aren't all that great as rad fans

Most if not all 200mm fans are 25mm thick. The AP's are 32mm thick, that gives you a general indication of static pressure sometimes (think deltas or triebwerk fans). Having 2.45 mmH20 is higher than most 200mm fans you''rr find right now. When and if they make a 30 or 35mm thick 200mm fan then yes, the phobya might be a better choice. Had they been out when I built my rig I would have gone for a 180mm.
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Good point. Do you know how quiet the AP's are? Because I building this rig to by quiet versus getting the highest overclocks.
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i think it was the noise aspect (weird harmonics if i remember correctly from martin's fan testing of the AP121) that made them bad rad fans, you could always get FM181s instead which have almost similar static pressure and don't channel the airflow like the AP181s
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i think it was the noise aspect (weird harmonics if i remember correctly from martin's fan testing of the AP121) that made them bad rad fans, you could always get FM181s instead which have almost similar static pressure and don't channel the airflow like the AP181s
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With the 180's you'd have a nice fan for them, the silverstone AP's or the white 180's.

Yeah those are the ones I meant. That and you should get a fan controller so you can tone the noise down when not benching or folding.

I love changing people's mind... =P

j/k apart, I'd have seriously gone with a 180 if they had them back when I built my rig. My NZXT have 1.25 mmH2O at 1700RPM, those Silverstone's are a much better choice for fans...
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