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post #1001 of 9809
You take that rig to lans eek.gif

Thats a effort after moving my system into my room i was keen to never move it again! and yours must weigh easily 10kg more than mine!

I must say the only thing i dislike about the RIVE is the lack of Sata 3 ports...
    
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Originally Posted by 4514kaiser View Post

You take that rig to lans eek.gif
Thats a effort after moving my system into my room i was keen to never move it again! and yours must weigh easily 10kg more than mine!
I must say the only thing i dislike about the RIVE is the lack of Sata 3 ports...

And the lack of sata cables without right angles, and the overclock key not supporting dvi-d. Otherwise though, great board thumb.gif

Yeah I can't take mine to LANs lol - here it is next to an antec 300

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@fat_italian_stallion - You have an insane rig with awesome fittings and everything though, probably more durable than one of the EK or Rasa kits I'd end up getting. When I do go for watercooling (whenever that is) I'm going to go all out, this is OCN, there are no half measures. tongue.gif
post #1004 of 9809
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Originally Posted by 4514kaiser View Post

You take that rig to lans eek.gif
Thats a effort after moving my system into my room i was keen to never move it again! and yours must weigh easily 10kg more than mine!
I must say the only thing i dislike about the RIVE is the lack of Sata 3 ports...

It's really not that bad. I just sit it on a dolly and roll it everywhere. It weighs around 130lbs, so like ~52kg.
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@fat_italian_stallion - You have an insane rig with awesome fittings and everything though, probably more durable than one of the EK or Rasa kits I'd end up getting. When I do go for watercooling (whenever that is) I'm going to go all out, this is OCN, there are no half measures. tongue.gif

I learned my lesson about half doing watercooling. It was seriously a waste of cash. I bought mediocre parts and was never happy because I knew no matter what I did there was just so much better out there. The best thing to do is just go all out from the start since the waterloop never goes bad. The worst that will happen is that you need to replace a pump and o-rings after a few years. Only buy the highest quality parts and just add to the loop as finances permit.
 
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post #1005 of 9809
Hello all,

Considering buying the ROG Rampage IV Extreme with a 3930K, probably going to be doing some video editing with this thing too (but totally looking forward to playing games with max settings on this thing!). I'm just starting my build but I'm pretty set on these two core components. I'd also be doing a dual SLI as I am very very interested in going with multiple monitors, but haven't chosen any particular cards yet. (Opinions here?)

I've seen discussion in this thread about water cooling and it's definitely the way I want to go. However, up to this point I've never even touched water cooling - it's always been big Antec fans and the dusty air cooling my past rigs. I'm the type of person who sees the immense value in getting quality parts, and so that's definitely the route I would take.

I am hoping to get some feedback as to the best types of cooling systems out there for this mobo, and then of course where to get them. I've seen the Koolance MB-ASR4E southbridge heatsink and I must say I really like it. What additional components would I need? This kit doesn't seem to have an attachment to the CPU, I assume I would need to purchase separately? What kind of pumps would you guys recommend for a new system that's going to expand in the future?

Perhaps I would be better served if you guys could show me a good place for getting started with water cooling, some type of tutorial or something. I do want to make sure that I'm not starting at a base level, but really jumping into the best right away, in terms of cooling efficiency and quality and expandability. Maybe these questions would be better suited to the water cooling forum? I figured I'd post here first though because I am set on this mobo and probably won't be looking at anything else for the next few years.

Sorry about the wall of text. Thoughts?
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Hello all,
Considering buying the ROG extreme with a 3930K, probably going to be doing some video editing with this thing too (but totally looking forward to playing games with max settings on this thing!). I'm just starting my build but I'm pretty set on these two core components. I'd also be doing a dual SLI as I am very very interested in going with multiple monitors, but haven't chosen any particular cards yet. (Opinions here?)
I've seen discussion in this thread about water cooling and it's definitely the way I want to go. However, up to this point I've never even touched water cooling - it's always been big Antec fans and the dusty air cooling my past rigs. I'm the type of person who sees the immense value in getting quality parts, and so that's definitely the route I would take.
I am hoping to get some feedback as to the best types of cooling systems out there for this mobo, and then of course where to get them. I've seen the Koolance MB-ASR4E southbridge heatsink and I must say I really like it. What additional components would I need? This kit doesn't seem to have an attachment to the CPU, I assume I would need to purchase separately? What kind of pumps would you guys recommend for a new system that's going to expand in the future?
Perhaps I would be better served if you guys could show me a good place for getting started with water cooling, some type of tutorial or something. I do want to make sure that I'm not starting at a base level, but really jumping into the best right away, in terms of cooling efficiency and quality and expandability. Maybe these questions would be better suited to the water cooling forum? I figured I'd post here first though because I am set on this mobo and probably won't be looking at anything else for the next few years.
Sorry about the wall of text. Thoughts?

Wow you're asking a lot of stuff here.

For GPUs by saying you want dual SLI, I'm going to assume therefore you want nvidia. Just checking that that's what you meant. it's hard for us to give opinions without knowing more e.g:
- budget
- monitor resolution
- number of monitors
- monitor refresh rate
- typical games played

If I were you I would start with a CPU loop for a month and then expand from there as you learn more. Maybe GPUs a month later, and then mobo last. I wouldn't advise a beginner to run cpu/mobo/gpu and multiple pumps right off the bat. You can but you'll need a good deal of hand holding along the way. That doesn't mean you have to get cheap parts that won't last, just take it slow. That part you linked is actually EK and it's for the motherboard only, you'd need a cpu block, radiators, pumps, fittings, reservoir and tube as a minimum before you even think about motherboard blocks.

First off what radiators can you fit in your case? You also asked about pumps - most use either a ddc style pump likethe ddc3.25 or mcp35x, or the laing d5 style like the D5 vario. I'd heavily recommend a cylinder style reservoir directly mounted above the pump, it makes bleeding and filling the loop a lot easier. You'll only need one pump for a cpu only loop, but for a cpu + gpus + motherboard you will probably want two in series. You may also want an aftermarket "top" to attach to the pump either for looks, performance or ease of connectivity options.

Yes the water cooling section is more likely to get more response, there should be some guides in there too. Try reading up on some water cooled build logs also it will give you ideas and questions smile.gif
     
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post #1007 of 9809
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I learned my lesson about half doing watercooling. It was seriously a waste of cash. I bought mediocre parts and was never happy because I knew no matter what I did there was just so much better out there. The best thing to do is just go all out from the start since the waterloop never goes bad. The worst that will happen is that you need to replace a pump and o-rings after a few years. Only buy the highest quality parts and just add to the loop as finances permit.

When I finish university and can actually keep my rig in one place for more than a month or two I'll be sure to come to OCN to find the best watercooling parts. thumb.gif
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When I finish university and can actually keep my rig in one place for more than a month or two I'll be sure to come to OCN to find the best watercooling parts. thumb.gif

That is a pain. The second I moved into my own place during undergrad I started really getting into building high end systems. No worries about getting parts "lost" or broken.
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Yeah I can't take mine to LANs lol - here it is next to an antec 300
Dq6Bqh.jpg

I used to toss my larger rig in my truck bed (covered) since it didn't fit inside. You don't even need a dolly for that beast. It has wheels!
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That is a pain. The second I moved into my own place during undergrad I started really getting into building high end systems. No worries about getting parts "lost" or broken.
I used to toss my larger rig in my truck bed (covered) since it didn't fit inside. You don't even need a dolly for that beast. It has wheels!

Yeah I need a buddy with a truck haha. My trunk isn't big enough. The wheels help a lot though!
     
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post #1010 of 9809
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Wow you're asking a lot of stuff here.
For GPUs by saying you want dual SLI, I'm going to assume therefore you want nvidia. Just checking that that's what you meant. it's hard for us to give opinions without knowing more e.g:
- budget
- monitor resolution
- number of monitors
- monitor refresh rate
- typical games played
If I were you I would start with a CPU loop for a month and then expand from there as you learn more. Maybe GPUs a month later, and then mobo last. I wouldn't advise a beginner to run cpu/mobo/gpu and multiple pumps right off the bat. You can but you'll need a good deal of hand holding along the way. That doesn't mean you have to get cheap parts that won't last, just take it slow. That part you linked is actually EK and it's for the motherboard only, you'd need a cpu block, radiators, pumps, fittings, reservoir and tube as a minimum before you even think about motherboard blocks.
First off what radiators can you fit in your case? You also asked about pumps - most use either a ddc style pump likethe ddc3.25 or mcp35x, or the laing d5 style like the D5 vario. I'd heavily recommend a cylinder style reservoir directly mounted above the pump, it makes bleeding and filling the loop a lot easier. You'll only need one pump for a cpu only loop, but for a cpu + gpus + motherboard you will probably want two in series. You may also want an aftermarket "top" to attach to the pump either for looks, performance or ease of connectivity options.
Yes the water cooling section is more likely to get more response, there should be some guides in there too. Try reading up on some water cooled build logs also it will give you ideas and questions smile.gif

Okay to answer some questions...
Budget for entire rig from ground up is 4k (previous rig being given away, minus the monitor I want, plus the old rig is nine years out)
Monitor(s) will be upgraded, for now one Samsung BX2440, an oldie but will get me going, after building will be getting two monitors identical, open to suggestions here also.
GPUs will definitely be nVidia, yet to select...
Games: Blizzard games for sure, BF3, of course Skyrim, and all the releases that strike my fancy initially but never last more than a week on my computer....
Other: Re-encoding videos and TV shows is quite common for me, ripping my DVD collection for archival purposes, and editing/compiling original videos happens too...

Will be getting a new case, figured that the type of cooling system I chose would help dictate which case to go with.

Since last post I've been putting some time into researching water cooling systems. Not sure I'm looking in the right places but whatever. EK and Koolance seem to have good reputations, but I am having a hard time finding reviews for any system. These brands seem like they're packaged for joe user instead of the enthusiast, but looks like they have some good parts... Seems like this is a bit of a niche. There's also quite a few other brands out there. Some pumps and reservoirs and radiators are bundled together which seems convenient but not very expandable? I think all I'd want water cooled would be the mobo, CPU, and two GPUs, and would air cool the rest (hdds, PSU, etc). If I'm planning on only these 4-5 blocks what would fit my needs? I really can't see myself expanding past 6-7 blocks, and even that would be a stretch (who really needs the quad-SLI, anyways?)

Also a question about the aftermarket "top" you mentioned: examples?

Will have to give myself time to research the pumps you mentioned above, have questions about those and the differences between tongue.gif

I think I will move this discussion over to the watercooling forum instead of here, but thanks for helping a guy out wink.gif

Before I move the discussion over, though, a question well-suited to this thread: how necessary is water-cooling this mobo? Anybody tried with just the stock fans and had issues? I can see that watercooling the CPU is a really good idea, if not necessary, but I'm looking at the mobo water cooling mostly because it looks shiny biggrin.gif Thoughts?
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Intel Core i7 3930K RAMPAGE IV EXTREME NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570  NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570  
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
G.Skill [ RipjawsZ ] F3-17000CL11Q-16GBZL (4Gx4... Intel 520 Series 240GB 2.5IN SSD MLC 25nm SATA3... LG BH12LS38 12X Blu Ray Rewriter Bdrw SATA Blac... XSPC Raystorm RX360 Extreme Kit 
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Koolance MB-ASR4E Motherboard Cooling Blocks Windows 7 Professional Samsung SyncMaster BX2440 
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