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Hi All!
New R4G owner here. Loving this platform and all its features, but I had a question I wanted to direct to other users with the same or similar UEFI:
I am trying to enable Speedstep while overclocking a 3820, and I can't make it happen for the life of me. It all seems to be enabled, but I am locked at full voltage/clock speed. I heard over at the ROG forums, that even though all the power saving features are enabled, the CPU wont clock down if there is a manual VCORE value. Their suggestion was to to run it in Auto or offset mode. Running it in auto did not seem to help, plus the auto setting was pumping 1.46v @ 4600!!! I am stable at 1.31v at that speed.
They also mentioned the offset, which seemed a little odd to me. Since there is no manual VCORE value, what exactly am I offsetting? If I added the voltage I need to reach 1.31v to the apparent stock voltage of 1.05v, then I would need to + 0.260v. This value was well into the red, while a manual voltage of 1.31v is not. So that leads me to believe that one cannot go as high the offset vcore.
Is anyone familiar with these options? Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks in advance!
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So, there are two features involved. One, speedstep, involves only changing the clock speed of your processor. This is done by C-state reporting between the processor and the OS. If you have speedstep enabled and any C-states enabled and the processor is not downclocking at idle, then windows 7 power features are the issue.

Offset mode for your CPU's VCORE involves your board reading a value from the CPU called "VID". This is pre-programmed by Intel on each chip. For example at a certain power level your CPU may request a VID of 1.31V, now if you are running the processor at a higher clock than stock, you'll need to "offset" that value by adding voltage. So, if your offset vcore was set at +.05, your VCORE value would be 1.36 at that given load.

Last thing to understand about the ASUS implementation for offset mode setting is also the most important: never, ever, ever ever ever use "AUTO" for offset mode vcore value. thumb.gif Give it plus +.005 or -.005 but do not leave it on AUTO.

Best also to read thru this.
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I put 6-pin sleeved cable, but with three gpu's i can't connect it biggrin.gif
I added my rig for description below my comments and...it doesn't appear( why?
And...can anybody help me, please? post with the problem

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I have 8x 2GB Patriot Sector 5 RED 2000 mhz modules. Works stable only on 1866.... It's not your motherboard or bad settings, it's just a memory. Not in every case you can get the 2400... Even 2133 not always working stable.

The patriots i had gave me hell! Also they requested a very high VCCSA. I returned them
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The patriots i had gave me hell! Also they requested a very high VCCSA. I returned them

I have almost full speed with the 8 modules!) In QVL list almost no kits let you achive 2000 mhz and higher speed. Patriot is one who able. I can search the other ram kits but mostly there will be only 4 dimms same time so it's not an indicator of stability (in my case).
Edited by Master Freez - 7/19/12 at 1:00am
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Hey guys. So I'm contemplating going water-cooling (for first time) with the XSPC Rasa 750 RS360 Universal CPU kit. I'm trying to reach 24/7 5ghz on my 3930k. From what i read i need to cool the VRM on the RIVE also.

1.Would it be able just to cool the VRM/CPU and not the rest of the board? If possible?

2. Would I be able to add a VRM loop with this kit? http://www.frozencpu.com/products/12222/ex-wat-162/XSPC_Rasa_750_RS360_Universal_CPU_Triple_Radiator_Water_Cooling_Kit_Hot_Item.html#blank

3. Or would it be better to buy the ASUS Rampage IV Extreme Full Board Cooling Block Kit? And what size rad would i need extra to go with it?
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14724/ex-blc-1029/EK_ASUS_Rampage_IV_Extreme_Full_Board_Cooling_Block_Kit_-_Acetal_Electroless_Nickel_Plated_EK-FB_KIT_RE4_-_AcetalEN_Nickel.html

4. Or would a push/pull config on rad directly blowing on VRM be enough to cool them, and just cool CPU?

I dont see a need to WC my GPUs at this time because the 670s run surprisingly cool under load & OC'd even though the are sandwiched together. And the 670s do a great job of expelling all the heat out my case. Highest ive seen was 69c with OC load, fans all the way up.
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^ have you checked windows power management?

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post #2028 of 9801
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Hey guys. So I'm contemplating going water-cooling (for first time) with the XSPC Rasa 750 RS360 Universal CPU kit. I'm trying to reach 24/7 5ghz on my 3930k. From what i read i need to cool the VRM on the RIVE also.
1.Would it be able just to cool the VRM/CPU and not the rest of the board? If possible?
2. Would I be able to add a VRM loop with this kit? http://www.frozencpu.com/products/12222/ex-wat-162/XSPC_Rasa_750_RS360_Universal_CPU_Triple_Radiator_Water_Cooling_Kit_Hot_Item.html#blank
3. Or would it be better to buy the ASUS Rampage IV Extreme Full Board Cooling Block Kit? And what size rad would i need extra to go with it?
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14724/ex-blc-1029/EK_ASUS_Rampage_IV_Extreme_Full_Board_Cooling_Block_Kit_-_Acetal_Electroless_Nickel_Plated_EK-FB_KIT_RE4_-_AcetalEN_Nickel.html
4. Or would a push/pull config on rad directly blowing on VRM be enough to cool them, and just cool CPU?
I dont see a need to WC my GPUs at this time because the 670s run surprisingly cool under load & OC'd even though the are sandwiched together. And the 670s do a great job of expelling all the heat out my case. Highest ive seen was 69c with OC load, fans all the way up.

You don't have to watercool the VRM; a fan pointed on them will also work, just not as well.

The kit you listed should be able to handle the extra blocks if you go with the full board cooling kit.
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Hey guys. So I'm contemplating going water-cooling (for first time) with the XSPC Rasa 750 RS360 Universal CPU kit. I'm trying to reach 24/7 5ghz on my 3930k. From what i read i need to cool the VRM on the RIVE also.
1.Would it be able just to cool the VRM/CPU and not the rest of the board? If possible?
2. Would I be able to add a VRM loop with this kit? http://www.frozencpu.com/products/12222/ex-wat-162/XSPC_Rasa_750_RS360_Universal_CPU_Triple_Radiator_Water_Cooling_Kit_Hot_Item.html#blank
3. Or would it be better to buy the ASUS Rampage IV Extreme Full Board Cooling Block Kit? And what size rad would i need extra to go with it?
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14724/ex-blc-1029/EK_ASUS_Rampage_IV_Extreme_Full_Board_Cooling_Block_Kit_-_Acetal_Electroless_Nickel_Plated_EK-FB_KIT_RE4_-_AcetalEN_Nickel.html
4. Or would a push/pull config on rad directly blowing on VRM be enough to cool them, and just cool CPU?
I dont see a need to WC my GPUs at this time because the 670s run surprisingly cool under load & OC'd even though the are sandwiched together. And the 670s do a great job of expelling all the heat out my case. Highest ive seen was 69c with OC load, fans all the way up.

You'll find alot of different opinions on this subject. Here's mine. biggrin.gif

To put it bluntly, that kit will not be much better than an H100. Alot of people have had success with it, but not too many on SB-E (the 3930K puts out *way* more heat than SB). You'll need a custom loop.

A block on the mosfets is a must. The southbridge, not so much. Save a little and get the mostfet block only.

A single 3x120 rad (as in the kit you linked to) is not enough. My loop didn't start performing well until I added a second 3x120 rad.
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A single 3x120 rad (as in the kit you linked to) is not enough. My loop didn't start performing well until I added a second 3x120 rad.


Am H100 is only a 240mm rad. How's it not get out performed by a 360mm kit?


Anyways, if OP is thinking of a vrm block, he should look at building from scratch or getting the extreme kits.
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