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post #2041 of 5534
7/19/12 at 5:03pm
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Originally Posted by skyisover View Post

Hello. I just received my open box RIVE from newegg today and I only notice that I'm missing a few accessories. I was well aware that I would be missing a few but the question is now, which should I go buy. I seem to be missing these:
2 x SATA 3Gb/s cable
2 x SATA 6Gb/s cable
1 x CrossFire cable
ROG Door Hanger
1 x X-Socket pad
ROG Cable Label
I/O Shield
Don't really think I need the door hanger. Have no LGA 1366 coolers so no need for X-Socket. I'm just wondering if I need those extra SATA ports right now. I'm only going to be powering my rig with a Plextor M3 256gb but intend to add more when I run out of room. Also should I buy a crossfire bridge, going for single GTX 670 for now and maybe SLI later but maybe crossfire for future purposes. I'm also not sure if I need the I/O shield. Can you guys tell me what I need to buy from the ASUS e-store.

Holy... Get the gun. No. Stop... Get the motherboard and send it BACK!

I/O shield is not just a piece of metal, this thing helps to ground the motherboard with the case. So without it static can damage the motherboard if something will happend with PSU or when touching.

Maybe it sounds funny or unrealistic but my friend engineer said the same.
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post #2042 of 5534
7/19/12 at 6:14pm
Well I got me Advanced RMA finally in! New Rampage IV Extreme boots ALOT faster. It seems like a different board as the previous board had a long POST time. Haven't had time to test for 100% stability yet, but that's what overnight is for.

@skyisover - Contact Asus and see if you can get the I/O shield. That's the most important on the list, and it's something you don't really want to be without.
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post #2043 of 5534
7/19/12 at 6:15pm
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Holy... Get the gun. No. Stop... Get the motherboard and send it BACK!
I/O shield is not just a piece of metal, this thing helps to ground the motherboard with the case. So without it static can damage the motherboard if something will happend with PSU or when touching.
Maybe it sounds funny or unrealistic but my friend engineer said the same.

Motherboard is grounded by mounting the mb into the case, note the metal stands and obviously the power cable.
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post #2044 of 5534
7/19/12 at 6:53pm
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Motherboard is grounded by mounting the mb into the case, note the metal stands and obviously the power cable.

Ok, the last reason: dust cover biggrin.gif
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post #2045 of 5534
7/19/12 at 8:31pm
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Hey guys. So I'm contemplating going water-cooling (for first time) with the XSPC Rasa 750 RS360 Universal CPU kit. I'm trying to reach 24/7 5ghz on my 3930k.

I wanted to add one more thing to this discussion before you go off and spend $200-$500.

The 3930k is a bear to get stable above 4.8Ghz. Takes quite a bit of cooling and a lot of voltage along with a little luck. All for very little return. Take for example the SPECapc for lightwave benchmark. The mutli-rendering test renders 8 or 9 different scenes, some with millions of polys and reports a benchmark in number of seconds it takes to complete. Here's the results on my machine:

4.8: 350 seconds
4.9: 343 seconds
5.0: 335 seconds

(p.s. a dual xeon setup reviewed here scored 399 seconds in this benchmark, and each of those CPUs are still >$1000, so I'd say we're cranking pretty good with the SB-E at 4.8)

See a pattern yet ? Each step is worth 2% performance increase in the benchmark I care about. Yet, the jump from 4.9Ghz to 5.0Ghz requires roughly an 8% increase in voltage. This is the definition of the law of diminishing returns in my view, and in retrospect was not worth the $400 plus it takes to cool it.

Or to put it another way, I have read posts by other SB-E overclockers that in effect say there is a wall at 4.8/4.9 on these chips and getting past it requires alot of voltage and possibly more exotic cooling than water.

That's just like... my opinion, man. thumb.gif
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post #2046 of 5534
7/19/12 at 8:47pm
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Originally Posted by Master Freez

Holy... Get the gun. No. Stop... Get the motherboard and send it BACK!
I/O shield is not just a piece of metal, this thing helps to ground the motherboard with the case. So without it static can damage the motherboard if something will happend with PSU or when touching.
Maybe it sounds funny or unrealistic but my friend engineer said the same.

Can't I just buy the I/O shied off the ASUS e-store or off ebay?
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post #2047 of 5534
7/19/12 at 9:03pm
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Can't I just buy the I/O shied off the ASUS e-store or off ebay?


Ebay always has them for whatever reason.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-I-O-SHIELD-Rampage-IV-Extreme-LGA-2011-USED-/221068932958?pt=US_Motherboard_Backplates&hash=item3378bc375e
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post #2048 of 5534
7/19/12 at 9:33pm
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I wanted to add one more thing to this discussion before you go off and spend $200-$500.
The 3930k is a bear to get stable above 4.8Ghz. Takes quite a bit of cooling and a lot of voltage along with a little luck. All for very little return. Take for example the SPECapc for lightwave benchmark. The mutli-rendering test renders 8 or 9 different scenes, some with millions of polys and reports a benchmark in number of seconds it takes to complete. Here's the results on my machine:
4.8: 350 seconds
4.9: 343 seconds
5.0: 335 seconds
(p.s. a dual xeon setup reviewed here scored 399 seconds in this benchmark, and each of those CPUs are still >$1000, so I'd say we're cranking pretty good with the SB-E at 4.8)
See a pattern yet ? Each step is worth 2% performance increase in the benchmark I care about. Yet, the jump from 4.9Ghz to 5.0Ghz requires roughly an 8% increase in voltage. This is the definition of the law of diminishing returns in my view, and in retrospect was not worth the $400 plus it takes to cool it.
Or to put it another way, I have read posts by other SB-E overclockers that in effect say there is a wall at 4.8/4.9 on these chips and getting past it requires alot of voltage and possibly more exotic cooling than water.
That's just like... my opinion, man. thumb.gif

I can't even figure out how to run that benchmark! Talk about convoluted!!
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post #2049 of 5534
7/19/12 at 9:59pm
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I can't even figure out how to run that benchmark! Talk about convoluted!!

Yeah, it's not fun. You need to get Lightwave 9.6 trial from somewhere, the benchmark works fine with that. Make sure to install the 64bit version and run layout at least once.
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7/20/12 at 12:50am
Miss Playing with my Rampage Extreme and Formula .Formula is still Mint sitting in the box with just about everything sealed. And My Extreme is sitting on my Dimastech Easy/Hard2.5 Bench above me on my desk. Lol My i7-2700k and Fatality Pro Z68 Gen 3 sitting beside me. (Only touch it to start it and move the coolants around daily) because thats a show rig and waiting on a Photoshoot. so sitting here on an i5-2500k and Fatality P67 . Know whats funny. Its not bad at all and cost way less then the others.

Still cant wait to get back to my new Extreme.It has been tested and runs great and the new CPU is nice also. Soon as i get ME3 build completely done i can finally play again. The Extreme will be my personal everyday Build/Toy or whatever.

Will be in here allot more when i finally get to use it.

Take Care guys and have fun with the boards.

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