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Ok I've been doing a lot of research and Im getting freaking pumped about my first water cooling build biggrin.gif

Question: Where the hell are all the RIVE waterblocks?? I can't find one for sale anywhere!

Edit: error corrected
Edited by Swolern - 7/20/12 at 5:53pm
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post #2052 of 9817
Here you go.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=32817
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Thanks Reglar. Ordered biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by ugotd8 View Post

I wanted to add one more thing to this discussion before you go off and spend $200-$500.
The 3930k is a bear to get stable above 4.8Ghz. Takes quite a bit of cooling and a lot of voltage along with a little luck. All for very little return. Take for example the SPECapc for lightwave benchmark. The mutli-rendering test renders 8 or 9 different scenes, some with millions of polys and reports a benchmark in number of seconds it takes to complete. Here's the results on my machine:
4.8: 350 seconds
4.9: 343 seconds
5.0: 335 seconds
(p.s. a dual xeon setup reviewed here scored 399 seconds in this benchmark, and each of those CPUs are still >$1000, so I'd say we're cranking pretty good with the SB-E at 4.8)
See a pattern yet ? Each step is worth 2% performance increase in the benchmark I care about. Yet, the jump from 4.9Ghz to 5.0Ghz requires roughly an 8% increase in voltage. This is the definition of the law of diminishing returns in my view, and in retrospect was not worth the $400 plus it takes to cool it.
Or to put it another way, I have read posts by other SB-E overclockers that in effect say there is a wall at 4.8/4.9 on these chips and getting past it requires alot of voltage and possibly more exotic cooling than water.
That's just like... my opinion, man. thumb.gif

5.0 isn't very hard to him imo. All i need to pass a 24 hr prime run is 100x 50, 1.52vcore, and pll locked at 1.8v (xmp mode). Also, the better the cooling you have the less volts you'll need to hit higher clocks. It really all comes down to the luck of the draw tho with the chip you bought.
 
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5.0 isn't very hard to him imo. All i need to pass a 24 hr prime run is 100x 50, 1.52vcore, and pll locked at 1.8v (xmp mode). Also, the better the cooling you have the less volts you'll need to hit higher clocks. It really all comes down to the luck of the draw tho with the chip you bought.

Yeah, 1.52 that's all. I guess shoulda told him the Rasa kit would be fine to cool that 1.52V @ 250W too. Not to worry, he ignored me anyway. biggrin.gif

Sorry, I know that sounds *****y, but here's how my day started.
Edited by ugotd8 - 7/20/12 at 5:38pm
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Yeah, 1.52 that's all. I guess shoulda told him the Rasa kit would be fine to cool that 1.52V @ 250W too. Not to worry, he ignored me anyway. biggrin.gif
Sorry, I know that sounds *****y, but here's how my day started.

I didnt ignore you. I take your suggestions very seriously & I appreciate them. I'm just new to water cooling and tying to soak it all in. I just realized the link you gave earlier had a block for mosfet and a heat sink for chipset. Sorry noob error.
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So for someone who is building their first loop (EX420 + undecided 240, both push/pull, MCP35X, and cooling 3930K + EVGA GTX670 FTW), would it be a good idea to incorporate the motherboard into the loop or not? I will be overclocking, though I am not too ambitious, at least not yet, hoping to get it @ 4.5Ghz stable daily. I like the idea of better VRM cooling but was thinking of just grabbing some RAM fans to provide some air to the CPU area... Should I just suck it up and get the block for the board or no?
   
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So for someone who is building their first loop (EX420 + undecided 240, both push/pull, MCP35X, and cooling 3930K + EVGA GTX670 FTW), would it be a good idea to incorporate the motherboard into the loop or not? I will be overclocking, though I am not too ambitious, at least not yet, hoping to get it @ 4.5Ghz stable daily. I like the idea of better VRM cooling but was thinking of just grabbing some RAM fans to provide some air to the CPU area... Should I just suck it up and get the block for the board or no?

It honestly depends how much you want to spend. Anything over 1.4vcore really should have the assistance of a waterblock. IMHO fans strapped everywhere to fool the mobo are kind of tacky and ugly, but would save you some money assuming you put mini heatsinks on the back of the mobo as well.
 
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Guys, do you have long "POST" time ? I have almost around 7-10 seconds before post every boot.
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Originally Posted by KaRLiToS View Post

Guys, do you have long "POST" time ? I have almost around 7-10 seconds before post every boot.

It depends how the rig was shut down. I tend to have around 7 second post time. If it's a hard shutdown then even up to 30 seconds before any signal.
 
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Bitspower Compression Fittings Lamptron FC-8 Noiseblocker PL-2 Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit 
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