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VCORE mode = Offset. Also, make sure not to set the offset to AUTO.
My suggestion would be to read this guide, then set your multi to something easy like 42. Then set offset mode for vcore with an offset of + .005. Test it out and log your idle and load voltages and go from there. It's not the easiest method, but worth it. Plus, all the cool kids are doing it. biggrin.gif

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I'm sure 4.5 with pretty much work with everything auto set. You some how managed off set voltages during your sets. The cpu is staying to set voltage because speed step only clocks the CPU down and not the voltage. When an off set voltage is set, say +0.005v on CPU and another @ +0.010v will set certain +/- increase in set voltages to sustain a lower idle freq with a lower voltage idle. When the CPU is loaded then both voltage and freq will increase. Load Line Calibration will increase CPU voltage when needed by % set, a boost.
Maybe that made some sense? Lol!


So if I read this correctly, once I set the multi to anything but auto, the voltage will no longer be reduced to .864V at idle and the only way to lower idle voltage would be to use a negative offset?

Bump for confirmation.

I believe so. Do you not want to use Offset Mode?
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My 24/7 OC is 4.1Ghz HT-enabled and I was just wondering what voltage and temps people see at this speed, just out of curiosity redface.gif
Just updated to the 2105 BIOS so I'm re-doing my OC Profiles. I don't know if it was the BIOS or if I just didn't put enough effort in before, but my stable voltages went down a decent amount. Haven't started working on other OC Profiles yet, still testing the 4.1Ghz one. But before today, I had it set at a load vcore of 1.272 to be stable. Now, I'm going on my second hour of folding after running Prime blend a little while, and have the offset set at -.06v. which gives me ~.79v idle and 1.256v load. And, last BIOS I would crash if the vcore dropped below .82v when idling.
(didn't open RealTemp till after I was folding for a while)
So, just curious what voltage others use for this speed and what temps are. Also, if anyone else saw a similar positive difference when updating the BIOS after 1404.

I also use 4.1 usually, unless I'm playing demanding games

Didn't bother to turn on the AC or max fan speeds as its a really low voltage, hence the high temps. Also, sensor 6 was broken since I got it, always shows 6-10c higher than the rest =P
Usually only prime for an hour then test by playing games, not one BSOD in a month but I wouldn't call it full stable without 12 hour blend. I've only done 12 hour runs with 4.7 to 4.5.

You can most likely lower voltage if you disable downclock and downvolt (EIST, C1E). My chip hates c1e and negative offset below 4.6Ghz (hard crash), always ends up needing more load voltage than what's actually needed, even when playing with the LLC value (c3 and c6 disabled ofc). It just crashes at light load when 1 or 2 cores are going supersayian while the rest slack.

For example at 1.2v with EIST offset and C1E I can not even boot to windows without crashing at 4.1 where as static volt/clock is stable for my purposes. At 4.6 and higher it loves offset, C1E, C7 the whole shabang. Obviously your results may vary but it's definitely worth a shot if you're folding, downvolt won't do you much good anyway then =P


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-0.085v (1.200v load, 1.200v idle, I've never seen deviate at all, drop dead 1.2v at any load condition)
LLC on AUTO
DIGI Power and thermal Savings enabled
Disabled: EIST, C1E, C3, C6, C7
VTTCPU 1.1
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mem 2133 10-10-10-28
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BIOS 1404
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Nice. Yeah I'm pretty much as low as I can go on the offset, idling at .79v right now. So, only way to lower the load voltage is set a static voltage. Been debating on whether or not to have a low idle voltage or lower load voltage.
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Nice. Yeah I'm pretty much as low as I can go on the offset, idling at .79v right now. So, only way to lower the load voltage is set a static voltage. Been debating on whether or not to have a low idle voltage or lower load voltage.

Another alternative is manual voltage with c3 and c6 enabled, idle temps are almost as good as offset c1e OC but yea voltage stays fixed. Good luck with it lemme know how it turns out
    
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Nice. Yeah I'm pretty much as low as I can go on the offset, idling at .79v right now. So, only way to lower the load voltage is set a static voltage. Been debating on whether or not to have a low idle voltage or lower load voltage.

Another alternative is manual voltage with c3 and c6 enabled, idle temps are almost as good as offset c1e OC but yea voltage stays fixed. Good luck with it lemme know how it turns out

Been messing around with the static voltage and LLC. So far, with all the energy saving features still enabled, I have the Vcore set at 1.215v and LLC at Ultra High. As opposed to my previous settings, this gives me an idle voltage of 1.224v instead of .79v, but a load voltage of 1.232v-1.240v instead of 1.256v. Any load voltage at less than 1.23v and it crashes when folding. Didn't make much of a temp difference, which I didn't expect it would make much of. So, not sure if it's worth the small decrease in load voltage for the much higher idle voltage thinking.gif

(opened RealTemp after 25 minutes of folding)
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Been messing around with the static voltage and LLC. So far, with all the energy saving features still enabled, I have the Vcore set at 1.215v and LLC at Ultra High. As opposed to my previous settings, this gives me an idle voltage of 1.224v instead of .79v, but a load voltage of 1.232v-1.240v instead of 1.256v. Any load voltage at less than 1.23v and it crashes when folding. Didn't make much of a temp difference, which I didn't expect it would make much of. So, not sure if it's worth the small decrease in load voltage for the much higher idle voltage thinking.gif
(opened RealTemp after 25 minutes of folding)

Yeah in that case it's not worth it, as you say.
I'm curious however, did lower CPU PLL to 1.6 have any effect on temps or stability? I've never tried lower than 1.7v
Do you still use the same PLL voltage at higher OC's also?
    
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I"m pretty sure I know the answer to this question is yes, but I'll ask it anyways.

My 3930k is idling at 34-37 (depending how low I have the rad fans set to), and at load it's pegged at 60-61. It's currently running at stock. I know it's not my loop because my GPU idles at 27-28 and at load it hits 36-38, and the block on the Aquaero keeps the VRMs under 60, even with the fans and pump undervolted by 50%. My gut tells me that I used too much thermal paste. I really don't want to have to drain the loop, unhook the tubes, remove the current paste, reapply, etc. But after seeing peoples' load temps in mid 50s (and that's with some OCing on top of it), I probably don't have a choice. So do I need to redo the paste and remount?
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I open up my new Rampage IV Extreme to install it and I notice something weird. Check this out guys:-
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Do you guys notice the bent pin in the top corner? Could that be the reason of my mobo not detecting my 32 GB ram properly. It only detects 24 GB.
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I"m pretty sure I know the answer to this question is yes, but I'll ask it anyways.
My 3930k is idling at 34-37 (depending how low I have the rad fans set to), and at load it's pegged at 60-61. It's currently running at stock. I know it's not my loop because my GPU idles at 27-28 and at load it hits 36-38, and the block on the Aquaero keeps the VRMs under 60, even with the fans and pump undervolted by 50%. My gut tells me that I used too much thermal paste. I really don't want to have to drain the loop, unhook the tubes, remove the current paste, reapply, etc. But after seeing peoples' load temps in mid 50s (and that's with some OCing on top of it), I probably don't have a choice. So do I need to redo the paste and remount?

Why would you have to drain the loop to reapply the TIM? You can't take your block off with the tubes connected to it?
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Why would you have to drain the loop to reapply the TIM? You can't take your block off with the tubes connected to it?

Maybe? Probably not. frown.gif
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