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I seem to be sitting pretty at 48x with LLC on high, which gives me 1.400V at load (might try LLC on medium to see if it can load with .02V less).
I tried bumping up to 49x. It froze on the Win7 loading screen once the logo was at full size (there was no BSOD though, just sat there frozen). I figured this means it needs more volts, so I bumped LLC from high to ultra high. It started to load fine, but as soon as the logo flashed the computer shut down and after 2-3 seconds started back up.
Pretty sure it's not an issue of Vcore voltage (although I could be wrong), so what's the next step?
While testing, everytime that my pc froze on the Win7 loading screen logo it would boot ok if I raised a step the Vcore offset.
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While testing, everytime that my pc froze on the Win7 loading screen logo it would boot ok if I raised a step the Vcore offset.

Wouldn't raising the LLC have the same effect?
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Wouldn't raising the LLC have the same effect?
Partially, but at the cost of higher VRM temperatures.
    
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Ahh, good point (although I've got them under water). Based on my previous tests at 42x, 45x, and now 48x, I figured changing LLC from High to Ultra-High would be enough of a boost to get it to boot.

So obviously when it froze on me, it means I need more Vcore. But what does it indicate when it shutdown and restart after changing the LLC to Ultra-High?
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My 4.1Ghz profile has a load voltage of 1.223v. In AI Suite I have the CPU Power Phase set to Extreme, but when I set it to Optimized it crashes in a few minutes under load. Would it be better to bump the vcore up and put the Phase control on Optimized, or leave the voltage as it is and keep the Phase control on Extreme?
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My 4.1Ghz profile has a load voltage of 1.223v. In AI Suite I have the CPU Power Phase set to Extreme, but when I set it to Optimized it crashes in a few minutes under load. Would it be better to bump the vcore up and put the Phase control on Optimized, or leave the voltage as it is and keep the Phase control on Extreme?

I would bump vcore and run Power Phase Optimized. It switches to the coolest mosfets. It should, in theory, improve the life of your board, where as on a CPU running lower than stock volts, a small bump is completely insignificant. If you had the mosfets under water though, it wouldn't matter but they run kind of hot otherwise.

To contrast that however, Hambone has been running extreme cpu phase at 4.5 since around socket 2011 release I think, albeit on a sabertooth x79. No issues with his AFAIK.
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I been having some stability problems after installing 2105b. I'm trying to get to the bottom of it. Before I had problems with the SSD randomly freezing when I would click on the any User files in the User folder, I ended up uninstalling the RST and another driver I can't remember what it was and it fixed the problem, this was 3 months ago. But now after using 2105b and new install of RST I figure it would be safer to install so now I had a problem with random frezzing again only this time its different just crashes and is more like random bsod and doesn't crash when I click on user folders. I'm leaning towards is being different stability due to the newer bios so I been addings some VTT and vcore. Last thing I tried so far was installing the newest RST drivers 3.5.0.1092 and Intel Management Engine 8.1.0.1263. Intel ME was 7.x and RST was 3.2.0.x before. I also just added a RAID array with two Hitachi 7200RPM to the mix this is why I went with the 2105b bios. I'm trying to get a minidump of a crash right now the last crash didn't happen until about 38 hours, so its very random. My current drive and the drive that had given me problems before was the Crucial m4 and its on 000F firmware which is still the boot drive. I wouldn't say the Crucial is bad though intact I have used this drive in 6 different builds its just this chipset and this combination of hardware. Next things I'm think of is the bios 2105b is the problem, or possible a stick of ram went bad, or one of the newly used sata ports is bad that I just wasn't using before.
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post #2498 of 9802
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My 4.1Ghz profile has a load voltage of 1.223v. In AI Suite I have the CPU Power Phase set to Extreme, but when I set it to Optimized it crashes in a few minutes under load. Would it be better to bump the vcore up and put the Phase control on Optimized, or leave the voltage as it is and keep the Phase control on Extreme?

I would bump vcore and run Power Phase Optimized. It switches to the coolest mosfets. It should, in theory, improve the life of your board, where as on a CPU running lower than stock volts, a small bump is completely insignificant. If you had the mosfets under water though, it wouldn't matter but they run kind of hot otherwise.

To contrast that however, Hambone has been running extreme cpu phase at 4.5 since around socket 2011 release I think, albeit on a sabertooth x79. No issues with his AFAIK.

Good to know. I'll do that then. Thanks redface.gif
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I been having some stability problems after installing 2105b. I'm trying to get to the bottom of it. Before I had problems with the SSD randomly freezing when I would click on the any User files in the User folder, I ended up uninstalling the RST and another driver I can't remember what it was and it fixed the problem, this was 3 months ago. But now after using 2105b and new install of RST I figure it would be safer to install so now I had a problem with random frezzing again only this time its different just crashes and is more like random bsod and doesn't crash when I click on user folders. I'm leaning towards is being different stability due to the newer bios so I been addings some VTT and vcore. Last thing I tried so far was installing the newest RST drivers 3.5.0.1092 and Intel Management Engine 8.1.0.1263. Intel ME was 7.x and RST was 3.2.0.x before. I also just added a RAID array with two Hitachi 7200RPM to the mix this is why I went with the 2105b bios. I'm trying to get a minidump of a crash right now the last crash didn't happen until about 38 hours, so its very random. My current drive and the drive that had given me problems before was the Crucial m4 and its on 000F firmware which is still the boot drive. I wouldn't say the Crucial is bad though intact I have used this drive in 6 different builds its just this chipset and this combination of hardware. Next things I'm think of is the bios 2105b is the problem, or possible a stick of ram went bad, or one of the newly used sata ports is bad that I just wasn't using before.
Anything you guys think I should be looking in to let me know.

You don't need the Intel ME on a desktop. I'm using the moded OROM bios with no problems. SSD R0 and a revo drive with only the latest RST driver.
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I been having some stability problems after installing 2105b. I'm trying to get to the bottom of it. Before I had problems with the SSD randomly freezing when I would click on the any User files in the User folder, I ended up uninstalling the RST and another driver I can't remember what it was and it fixed the problem, this was 3 months ago. But now after using 2105b and new install of RST I figure it would be safer to install so now I had a problem with random frezzing again only this time its different just crashes and is more like random bsod and doesn't crash when I click on user folders. I'm leaning towards is being different stability due to the newer bios so I been addings some VTT and vcore. Last thing I tried so far was installing the newest RST drivers 3.5.0.1092 and Intel Management Engine 8.1.0.1263. Intel ME was 7.x and RST was 3.2.0.x before. I also just added a RAID array with two Hitachi 7200RPM to the mix this is why I went with the 2105b bios. I'm trying to get a minidump of a crash right now the last crash didn't happen until about 38 hours, so its very random. My current drive and the drive that had given me problems before was the Crucial m4 and its on 000F firmware which is still the boot drive. I wouldn't say the Crucial is bad though intact I have used this drive in 6 different builds its just this chipset and this combination of hardware. Next things I'm think of is the bios 2105b is the problem, or possible a stick of ram went bad, or one of the newly used sata ports is bad that I just wasn't using before.
Anything you guys think I should be looking in to let me know.

I had some problems with modded bios and it's not so difficult to put the original unmodded in, so give it a try, if nothing changes you would at least have eliminated a possibility.
Older versions of monitoring programs (AIDA,HWiNFO) had BSOD issues with RST, update if you have anything running.
There is somewhere a newer version of RSTe, 3.5.0.1101 WHQL.
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