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I'll try that, thanks.
So this happens somewhat frequently?

Not frequently but before when switching between my 24/7 4.6 and my benching 4.8. When I go back to the 4.6 it is unstable even with added voltage.
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I'm still surprised I haven't seen any bios profile settings uploaded yet. On the Gigabyte owners club I see several profiles uploaded.
 
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post #2643 of 9802
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I'll try that, thanks.
So this happens somewhat frequently?

Not frequently but before when switching between my 24/7 4.6 and my benching 4.8. When I go back to the 4.6 it is unstable even with added voltage.

Thanks again for the info. Went back to all the same settings after the BIOS flash and I've now been folding for an hour at 4.6Ghz with only 1.368v on the core, as opposed to 1.38-1.39v before thumb.gif
I posted this in the SB-E owners thread, no one seems to feel like posting some info about it. Just something I've been wondering about but can't really find much info on as of yet-

I noticed a while ago that I can only set the CPU Power Phase Control to 'Optimized' when I have CPU Power Limit set at '120%' or below. 120% would be 156w. I plugged my 4.6Ghz @ 1.37-1.38v overclock into a formula I found for a rough power usage estimate and came up with 167w. Now, I haven't seen any throttling on my 4.6Ghz profile when I set the Power Phase to 'Optimized' and Power % to '120%' and test under a full load. So, is my CPU just not hitting 120% TDP and the formula is off and that's why I don't see any throttling? Would there be any benefit here to setting the Power Phase to 'Extreme' to raise the TDP %?

Just wanted to run 'Optimized' for as high of an OC as I can before having to switch to 'Extreme' just for less wear-and-tear on the board. Any input would be appreciated redface.gif
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post #2644 of 9802
Does anyone know if ASUS will RMA the RIVE if it's been modified for a water cooling upgrade?

EVGA is currently inspecting my GTX590 for a possible power connection fault (blinking logo even with 1300 watt PSU), and I need to know if I will have problems with ASUS to have it looked at if the graphics card checks out okay. Despite switching the card to at least two different PCI slots, it still blinks upon powering up the PC. The HD television that I have recognizes the connection, and the RIVE goes through its usual start up codes, but I just don't get a visual to even get to the BIOS screen.

Anyone have any similar experiences with this?
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Just put the stock cooling on and you should be fine.
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I noticed a while ago that I can only set the CPU Power Phase Control to 'Optimized' when I have CPU Power Limit set at '120%' or below. 120% would be 156w. I plugged my 4.6Ghz @ 1.37-1.38v overclock into a formula I found for a rough power usage estimate and came up with 167w. Now, I haven't seen any throttling on my 4.6Ghz profile when I set the Power Phase to 'Optimized' and Power % to '120%' and test under a full load. So, is my CPU just not hitting 120% TDP and the formula is off and that's why I don't see any throttling? Would there be any benefit here to setting the Power Phase to 'Extreme' to raise the TDP %?
You can set "CPU Power Limit" in BIOS? I can't find this option in RIVE UEFI screenshots. Are you referring to "CPU Current Capability"? As for TDP, CPU not necessarily throttling when total power consumption exceeds TDP. TDP is the maximum amount of power the cooling system need to dissipate. It's referring to heat not the maximum power consumption of the CPU. You can check using HWINFO32/64; the CPU Power Limit is set to ridiculously high. So, your CPU (or any SB-E processors) will not throttling when power consumption exceeds TDP. You'll only experience throttling if CPU or VRMs overheating. When CPU Power Phase set to "Extreme", all phase array will be enabled, whether at idle or full load. This can leads to higher power consumption & also higher operating temperature.
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I noticed a while ago that I can only set the CPU Power Phase Control to 'Optimized' when I have CPU Power Limit set at '120%' or below. 120% would be 156w. I plugged my 4.6Ghz @ 1.37-1.38v overclock into a formula I found for a rough power usage estimate and came up with 167w. Now, I haven't seen any throttling on my 4.6Ghz profile when I set the Power Phase to 'Optimized' and Power % to '120%' and test under a full load. So, is my CPU just not hitting 120% TDP and the formula is off and that's why I don't see any throttling? Would there be any benefit here to setting the Power Phase to 'Extreme' to raise the TDP %?
You can set "CPU Power Limit" in BIOS? I can't find this option in RIVE UEFI screenshots. Are you referring to "CPU Current Capability"? As for TDP, CPU not necessarily throttling when total power consumption exceeds TDP. TDP is the maximum amount of power the cooling system need to dissipate. It's referring to heat not the maximum power consumption of the CPU. You can check using HWINFO32/64; the CPU Power Limit is set to ridiculously high. So, your CPU (or any SB-E processors) will not throttling when power consumption exceeds TDP. You'll only experience throttling if CPU or VRMs overheating. When CPU Power Phase set to "Extreme", all phase array will be enabled, whether at idle or full load. This can leads to higher power consumption & also higher operating temperature.

Current Capability, that's it. Sorry, wrote that while I was at work. Nice info. Well then Current Capability % isn't affecting anything at 120% then I take it? I mean, that's high enough until you really start to get up there in clocks?
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Current Capability, that's it. Sorry, wrote that while I was at work. Nice info. Well then Current Capability % isn't affecting anything at 120% then I take it? I mean, that's high enough until you really start to get up there in clocks?
CPU Current Capability to 120% or 130% is the recommended value for 4.5 - 4.8GHz OC. It is high enough to prevent over-current protection (OCP) from triggered when you overclock in that range. Even when stress testing, it should be high enough.
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Current Capability, that's it. Sorry, wrote that while I was at work. Nice info. Well then Current Capability % isn't affecting anything at 120% then I take it? I mean, that's high enough until you really start to get up there in clocks?
CPU Current Capability to 120% or 130% is the recommended value for 4.5 - 4.8GHz OC. It is high enough to prevent over-current protection (OCP) from triggered when you overclock in that range. Even when stress testing, it should be high enough.

Yeah I wanted to keep CPU Power Phase Control on Optimized for as high as possible. And 4.6Ghz is the highest gaming/extended-use profile I have, so keeping it at 120% at least up until 4.6Ghz was my goal if it didn't affect anything performance-wise.

Thanks again for the info redface.gif I guess I could just set it to 180% and do something like 30 runs of IBT, and then set it to 120% and compare results.
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It is enough. 4.9GHz folding stable with LLC on auto, T.Probe & Optimized.
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