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Ah, I was wondering if you were gpu folding/boincing/mining or other such stuff.
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I'd suspect the 1080 only would be sufficient but another 360 will be icing. Btw, where are you putting all these rads? eek.gif
Right now I have in the 700D case RX360 and RX240 mod on the bottom of the case. The EX360 is external behind the case sitting beside the case, the Res and pump are external under the case they sit on shelf under the case. I have room on this shelf to fit anything I want 1080 would fit under or further behind the case toward the corner behind my desk. But I might be limited to what I can put on the CPU. I don't have a hole big enough for two external inlet and outlet tubs. So for the CPU I might be limited to only the internal RX360 and RX240 on that loop. But with the GPU loop I can put as many radiators as I want on that shelf under the case.






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OK, I'm learning. Just figured out that 3DMark 11 wants to have hyperthreading enabled. Noticed other people showing 4 cores - 8 threads on their scores so I enabled it and went from this:



to this:



http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/4610355

The bar graph showing "Similar Systems Scores" shows 1 in the 15300 column. That is mine from this run.
In addition to enabling Hyperthreading I have the vid cards at (1041 core - 2349 mem) vs. (1035 core - 2363 mem). I think the higher core speed is stable. It ran one hour of Heaven and 6 passes of 3DMARK with no issues though I haven't had time to game for hours at that setting and for me that is always the true test..
What allowed that was getting my sound card out from between my vid cards. Tried slot 4 but got poor results. I think that was because having slot 4 occupied drops me to 16 X 8 on the vid cards. My PCIe x1 slot is blocked by my second vid card as it's a dual slot card.

Purchased this riser:



That allowed me to run my sound card off the PCIe x1 slot and all kinds of good things happened instantly.

1. Was able to keep 16 X 16 on the vid cards.
2. The background audio hum and hiss I've been fighting disappeared.
3. Overall sound quality improved dramatically. A hard edged harshness is gone and overall audio detail is much improved.
4. Am able to run the vid cards with PCIe GEN 3.0 spec enabled in BIOS on slots 1, 2, and 3. Yes, I know my cards don't support GEN 3.0 but my testing shows they do run better with it enabled.

I love this board.
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OK, I'm learning. Just figured out that 3DMark 11 wants to have hyperthreading enabled. Noticed other people showing 4 cores - 8 threads on their scores so I enabled it and went from this:

to this:

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/4610355
The bar graph showing "Similar Systems Scores" shows 1 in the 15300 column. That is mine from this run.
In addition to enabling Hyperthreading I have the vid cards at (1041 core - 2349 mem) vs. (1035 core - 2363 mem). I think the higher core speed is stable. It ran one hour of Heaven and 6 passes of 3DMARK with no issues though I haven't had time to game for hours at that setting and for me that is always the true test..
What allowed that was getting my sound card out from between my vid cards. Tried slot 4 but got poor results. I think that was because having slot 4 occupied drops me to 16 X 8 on the vid cards. My PCIe x1 slot is blocked by my second vid card as it's a dual slot card.
Purchased this riser:

That allowed me to run my sound card off the PCIe x1 slot and all kinds of good things happened instantly.
1. Was able to keep 16 X 16 on the vid cards.
2. The background audio hum and hiss I've been fighting disappeared.
3. Overall sound quality improved dramatically. A hard edged harshness is gone and overall audio detail is much improved.
4. Am able to run the vid cards with PCIe GEN 3.0 spec enabled in BIOS on slots 1, 2, and 3. Yes, I know my cards don't support GEN 3.0 but my testing shows they do run better with it enabled.
I love this board.

There isn't much reason I can think of to disabling Hyperthreading with a i7 3820. It shouldn't have to much heat issuse that chip. And should overclock really well. Which I can see your already at 4.9ghz.

I really glad you shared that about the riser cable. I had no idea it would do that with a sound card. But now thinking about, it does make since it would help sound quality. I will be keeping this in mind.
 
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There isn't much reason I can think of to disabling Hyperthreading with a i7 3820. It shouldn't have to much heat issuse that chip. And should overclock really well. Which I can see your already at 4.9ghz.

OK. I've read that aggressive overclocks might be helped by disabling it. My rig is for gaming and overclocking only. I don't believe any of my games would benefit from hypertreading so I just disabled it when I first got the board. In fact I've read many times that games don't benefit from more than 4 cores which is why I didn't get a 3930 or 3960. Is this true? Should I leave it enabled do you think?

[/quote]I really glad you shared that about the riser cable. I had no idea it would do that with a sound card. But now thinking about, it does make since it would help sound quality. I will be keeping this in mind.[/quote]

I've been a very serious audiophile for over 30 years. Much longer than I've been playing with computers. I assure you that with my components the improvement in sound quality was NOT subtle.
In addition I think there is a big benefit to the vid cards from getting a sound card on that PCIe x1 slot. I don't know why but I have a theory. Is the PCIe x1 slot somehow more electrically isolated from the vid cards than the other slots? That would be my guess.
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OK. I've read that aggressive overclocks might be helped by disabling it. My rig is for gaming and overclocking only. I don't believe any of my games would benefit from hypertreading so I just disabled it when I first got the board. In fact I've read many times that games don't benefit from more than 4 cores which is why I didn't get a 3930 or 3960. Is this true? Should I leave it enabled do you think?

8 cores at 4.9 or 4 cores at (maybe) 5.1 ? Seems like an easy choice to me, but you are going to find lots of opinions about it. Esp. in terms of gaming. In the end, it comes down to what you run every day. Is that game you are playing taking advantage of multi-threading or not ? I know one thing for sure, it's flat out stunning to see my 12 cores put to use in dbpowerAmp converting wavs to flacs on an SSD. No way I would give it half the cores to work with just to gain 200Mhz. tongue.gif
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OK. I've read that aggressive overclocks might be helped by disabling it. My rig is for gaming and overclocking only. I don't believe any of my games would benefit from hypertreading so I just disabled it when I first got the board. In fact I've read many times that games don't benefit from more than 4 cores which is why I didn't get a 3930 or 3960. Is this true? Should I leave it enabled do you think?



I've been a very serious audiophile for over 30 years. Much longer than I've been playing with computers. I assure you that with my components the improvement in sound quality was NOT subtle.
In addition I think there is a big benefit to the vid cards from getting a sound card on that PCIe x1 slot. I don't know why but I have a theory. Is the PCIe x1 slot somehow more electrically isolated from the vid cards than the other slots? That would be my guess.



That's a really interesting 2500K you there then?


The pcie x1 slots are not running on the pcie bus off the cpu. It's probably better to segment the sound card off that bus anyhow.
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That's a really interesting 2500K you there then?

?????????????????? - I'm running a 3820.
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The pcie x1 slots are not running on the pcie bus off the cpu. It's probably better to segment the sound card off that bus anyhow.

Didn't know that. Explains a lot.
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That's a really interesting 2500K you there then?

?????????????????? - I'm running a 3820.


But you just turned it into a 2500K lol!!
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But you just turned it into a 2500K lol!!

LOL - now I get it.

Seriously, I'd like to learn from the knowledgable people here. "ALL" I do with this rig is game. I don't fold or encode video or work with data bases or anything else. So; under those circumstances, would 4 threads running 200 Mhz faster than 8 threads get better, even just slightly better, gaming performance?
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