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' SNIP '

Anyone seen my life? Seem to have left it somewhere.....

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If you find it have a look for mine I cant remember if I had one or not laughingsmiley.gif

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Must be under all these computer bits somewhere....
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That's right bulb.gif IT IS around here somewhere headscratch.gif
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voltages are better than mine...1.47v not 24/7 stable, ...only benching stable.... I'm happy if I don't go above 78c in 15 mins of Prime.. that's usually as hot as it gets for Prime anyway.. you get there in the first 15minutes.

Nice, mine hits 70-71ºC on Prime 95. thumb.gif

For some reason for the last couple of days my computer gives a BSOD at night while the CPU is on idle. I can run Prime 95 on 1792 FFT's just fine but then it crashes on idle, it's driving me nuts...

Any ideas?
    
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I would guess you are running C states and offset? I don't know the answer, just see a lot of ppls with that issue. In 1136 and earlier days most of us disabled C-states, but Sandy, Sandy-E and Ivy overclock on multi, not FSB, and lot of what was taken for granted before got turned on its head.... I'm running manual voltage like in the "old days", not having that problem. Electricity bill not an issue for me.

On X58A I could use offset at and below 4.2GHz, but above that voltages would overshoot, so there I used manual....
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When using C6 and EIST, the processor will still down clock when it doesn't have anything to do. The difference is that you can combine C6 with the Windows High Performance profile and you can use a fixed voltage without any negative side effects and you will be able to come up with a stable overclock faster. The Balanced profile that locks the CPU at 1600 MHz isn't necessary when C6 is enabled. The High Performance profile will let the CPU manage itself and it does a great job of that.

The problem is that everyone has been brain washed by CPU-Z. They see their CPU locked at the highest Turbo multiplier when lightly loaded when it really isn't and then come up with various settings to "fix" this problem. Check out the multiplier data coming from RealTemp for a more accurate look at what the CPU is really doing when it is idle or lightly loaded. The other misconception is that running a CPU at 1600 MHz uses less power than running it at say 4000 MHz but that's not true when C6 is enabled.

I don't think it was Intel that dreamed up offset voltages. Motherboard manufacturers came up with this because they know most enthusiasts immediately turn off the C3/C6 low power states. Offset voltages is a cobble job that can lead to BSOD issues if not set up correctly and no matter how you set up your offset voltages, you will always get less power consumption and less heat by simply turning on C6.

When a CPU core is able to spend 99% of its idle time in C6 at practically zero volts, a high or low voltage has no material impact on power consumption because it won't be at that voltage. The CPU core will mostly be at zero.

As mentioned in another forum, these CPUs are capable of running at 800 MHz. Intel likely turned this feature off because slow CPUs are inefficient and don't save any power when the alternative is to run a CPU fast and put it into C6 when it has nothing to do.

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Yeah, I do use offset overclocking and C states for downclocking and undervolting on idle.
    
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Oh dear. We had a power failure earlier. Lasted for a couple of hours. Now my RIVE appears to be dead. Well, the lights are on, but nobody is home. (PSU works. Tested that.) No response to start buttons. None.
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Oh dear. We had a power failure earlier. Lasted for a couple of hours. Now my RIVE appears to be dead. Well, the lights are on, but nobody is home. (PSU works. Tested that.) No response to start buttons. None.

Damn, that really sucks. Got home insurance to cover that?

On another note, I noticed I had the C3 C6 thing states on BIOS on AUTO, I remember I used to run them on Enabled on my old 3930k, so I changed them to Enabled, let's see if that helps. smile.gif
    
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Oh dear. We had a power failure earlier. Lasted for a couple of hours. Now my RIVE appears to be dead. Well, the lights are on, but nobody is home. (PSU works. Tested that.) No response to start buttons. None.
Sorry to hear that !
This I why, when I got my 3k+ € hardware, I immediately bought an UPS (1600w Eaton). I think it's worth every cent.
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Noticed before it wasn't really downclocking or undervolting on idle, so the power saving wasn't working properly, now that it's set to Enabled it idles at 0.9v. biggrin.gif

Let's hope my issues are gone. Running Prime 95 with 1792 FFT's using all RAM, highest core hits 71ºC after 40 minutes. thumb.gif
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Sorry to hear that !
This I why, when I got my 3k+ € hardware, I immediately bought an UPS (1600w Eaton). I think it's worth every cent.

I used to have an UPS back when I lived in Turkey for all my electronics since electricity there was quite unstable, and it would cut out every few days.... Now here in Spain I've yet to see a power cut in the last 3-4 years, so I haven't felt the need to use one.
    
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Oh dear. We had a power failure earlier. Lasted for a couple of hours. Now my RIVE appears to be dead. Well, the lights are on, but nobody is home. (PSU works. Tested that.) No response to start buttons. None.
Murphy came a knockin......sad-smiley-002.gif
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Home insurance? lachen.gif Nope. I'm not that smart.

I see Gamedude have them for $489... maybe heading 159.4 km North tomorrow for replacement. I am too impatient to try warranty roulette - (a) if they say yes (b) how long it takes, both to decide and fix/replace..... and I've lost the top plastic cover for boxing the mobo back up....supplier being pccasegear 1633klm away......

Yeah, Murphy, by a knockout...

Hmmm, definitely no Titan now....
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