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A couple of fine points:

1. This is Enthusiast club for an Enthusiast motherboard and talking about the watercooling parts for the mobo which was voted most likely to watercool in high school is Probably on-topic. And even if it isn't strictly on-topic it's still related and how can you have a club not be able to relax, What kind of club is that?

2. I think some of you are arguing reputation and past experience over science and physics. If there's even a pinhole in that plating, that superthin plating, under the right waterloop conditions, you will eventually get corrosion. It's just a question of if it will be one year or ten years (or 20). Obviously 10 years won't matter for your PC. But it's not a question of if it will happen but when.

3. And now for the physics part. You're screwing brass compression fittings into thin nickel plated copper parts. How do you intend to ensure that you won't scratch the superthin plating and not get stagnant water inbetween the threads, Which satisfies some of the conditions possible for corrosion?

4. And I'm not talking about flaking I'm talking about corrosion. One's a manufacturing Defect and one is the process/science of mixing metals in water. And they don't need to be touching as the water touches everything. Flow is your friend, stagnant water is your enemy. The more metals in your loop further away from each other on that corrosion table is also your enemy. And most people forget about the tin solder in their radiators.
Edited by Neo Zuko - 2/19/13 at 1:33am
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mobo board blinksmiley.gif

As for flaking, they haven't has issues in a while but they have in the past, more so with fittings but there have been reports of blocks as well. That's certainly one reason I only deal with copper.
 
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mobo board blinksmiley.gif

As for flaking, they haven't has issues in a while but they have in the past, more so with fittings but there have been reports of blocks as well. That's certainly one reason I only deal with copper.
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A couple of fine points:

1. This is Enthusiast club for an Enthusiast motherboard and talking about the watercooling parts for the mobo which was voted most likely to watercool in high school is Probably on-topic.

2. I think some of you are arguing reputation and past experience over science and physics. If there's even a pinhole in that plating, that superthin plating, under the right waterloop conditions, you will eventually get corrosion. It's just a question of if it will be one year or ten years. Obviously 10 years won't matter for your PC. But it's not a question of if it will happen but when.

3. And now for the physics part. You're screwing brass compression fittings into thin nickel plated copper parts. How do you intend to ensure that you won't scratch the superthin plating and not get stagnant water inbetween the threads, Which satisfies some of the conditions possible for corrosion?

4. And I'm not talking about flaking I'm talking about corrosion. One's a manufacturing Defect and one is the process/science of mixing metals in water.

1. LOL if you want to debate that, you will have none from me. However the OCN site itself is pretty much an Enthusiast site populated with people, including yours truly, who self-congratualte themselves on spending thousands of dollars on top of what they spent to get the stock parts to do whatever and share with other self-congratulating enthusiast out there. However, there is a whole section devoted for the self congratulating enthusiast called "water cooling." This particular thread is called "the Official Assus ROG Rampage IV X79 owners club" and I come here usually to find out more information from others who are more informed about the above said motherboard than I am to help me optimize my system's performance.

2 & 3. Oh I'm not discounting the whole "science and physics" part of things although those parts I mentioned were retired way before half a decade.

4. Ok! I have already accepted both possibilities for the past few years and have taken the risk.

It is obvious two self-congratulating enthusiasts such as us are watercooling experts. But what's the point? Are you trying to one up me in education when all I mentioned that it's a bit off topic? Or are you trying to tell us that we should all purchase what's in your system specs because we are all not as smart as you are?
    
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Marvellous what a new mobo can do. The last one Gamedude had.

Bios 2003. Booted up first try.

The old mobo is definitely a dead parrot.
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VCCSA safe zone is 1.2v also.. I think anything higher you will start to get CPU degradation, So 1.2v for VCCSA and VTT is the safe limits thumb.gif

Give it a go and see if you are stable during gaming or everyday use..
Basically you are saying that the recommendation of Gskill Ram to set the CPU VCCSA to 1.250 will degrade my CPU, heh?
I'm worried now worriedsmiley.gif
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Marvellous what a new mobo can do. The last one Gamedude had.

Bios 2003. Booted up first try.

The old mobo is definitely a dead parrot.
Well you have done a few klms today to get their last board thumb.gif What version bios are going to use mr Salt questionmark.gif
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Already loaded 3404.....

(Was that a mistake?)
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Ok not meant to be adversarial, I was only trying to help by sharing my research, sorry it was taken the wrong way. I just wish someone told me before I had to google the hell out of it. The info is everyone's to use or discard now. That's all I ever wanted. I'll be the first to admit I'm playing it safe cus I just don't really know... I suppose if I had money to burn I could try the 380i and MIPS RIVE block and chromed fittings. See what happens... I do like the looks of those blocks more. But I would be going in knowing I took that risk and I would also use Swiftech's new Blue HydraX formula to help prevent corrosion. Comes out this month.
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Read this:

http://martinsliquidlab.org/2012/01/24/corrosion-explored/

If that does not phase you, I'd say buy the koolance 380i.

great article
thanks

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