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post #221 of 326
This is absurd.

I would honestly like to see how much Apple pays the patent office to allow for malarkey like this.
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Originally Posted by bloodmech21 View Post
Ugh... I really think we would all be better off with absolutely no patent or copyright law. Do something better than the other guy and you should be successful, not because litigation prevents the other guy from even competing. Why do patents do besides line the pockets of fat cats in high places while stifling technological progress?
Totally agree no system would work better than the system we have now. We just need apple to sue everyone out of the industry so they can get neutered by antitrust suits then everyone else can come back.
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(So does Samsung, yet Apple fanatics only think Samsung copies).
(And you don't see people complaining about IBM patents for a reason)
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post #224 of 326
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Originally Posted by SIMPSONATOR View Post
(And you don't see people complaining about IBM patents for a reason)
The reason is simple; it is because it is Apple and on OCN.
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post #225 of 326
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Android has driven nearly all the innovation and hardware advancements in the mobile market? I could give a litany of reasons as to how incredibly flawed your reasoning is. It's truly pathetic that you actually believe that.

So there's no sense in debating with someone like you. I've have walls to my left and right that would give a better argument than what you just said.

One thing to take away is though don't be upset because Apple had all these ideas in 2005 that Android knocked off 3 or 4 years later. Apple has every right for a little retribution. That's just the way it works. You can spout whatever rationale you can conjure up in your apple hating brain, but court rulings around the world in favor of Apple's patents speak volumes to the amount of copy-catting Android and it's OEMs have done.
So if Google filed a patent for the notification bar and had it granted you'd be ok with them getting Apple products banned from the US?

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When did Android start making hardware?? In that case I am so thankful for Windows bringing quad-core to my desktop.
Driving hardware. Windows, or to be more specific the programs running on Windows, are the reason hardware is as powerful as it is today. Do you think Intel would go out and spend billions of dollars developing technology that nobody would use?

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I'm not saying they're responsible for all innovation but based on that previous statement, Apple just tails the market and "Android" develops all the innovating technology.
Android beat Apple to the high DPI screen by half a year (eg, the Motorola Droid, Nexus One), it implemented HSPA well over a year before Apple, it brought us dual core tablets and phones months before Apple.

The iPhone has been trailing Android for quite a while now (I'd say since the introduction of the Droid/Nexus One). Their plan now seems to be to let Android work out all of the bugs and figure out what works and what doesn't, then just come and collect the spoils.

Not that this isn't what Android did in the 2008 with the iPhone, but the sheer hypocrisy of Apple criticizing Android of "stealing" a few design concepts back in late 2007/early 2008 while they blatantly "steal" features from the latest Android devices is infuriating. Note that "steal" is in quotation marks. I don't view it as stealing as much as building and improving on an existing idea. As long as one isn't pixel perfect clone (kinda like Samsung's Touch Wiz) everyone wins. I don't see why we can't just have the two platforms competing honestly. If Apple comes up with an idea, then Android takes that idea and improves on it, then Apple improves on Android's improvements, everybody wins.


Apple should count themselves lucky Google's motto is "don't be evil", and that they've fostered such an open community that encourages the sharing of ideas rather than jealously guarded every new idea to spring from the platform.
Edited by nathris - 10/26/11 at 2:44pm
    
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So if Google filed a patent for the notification bar and had it granted you'd be ok with them getting Apple products banned from the US?
What's with the dramatics here? A patent violation doesn't equal ban hammer. There are things called licenses for a reason.

Does anyone own a patent on that notification system that's included in open source software? I don't know how that works.
 
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What's with the dramatics here? A patent violation doesn't equal ban hammer. There are things called licenses for a reason.

Does anyone own a patent on that notification system that's included in open source software? I don't know how that works.
I believe his point was that Apple is getting Samsung products banned based strictly on aesthetic.
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What's with the dramatics here? A patent violation doesn't equal ban hammer. There are things called licenses for a reason.

Does anyone own a patent on that notification system that's included in open source software? I don't know how that works.
I believe that most open source software is covered under a few different license's all of witch state commercial use is prohibited so it is protected just like any other patent or copyright in the end google has some nice ammo with the notification system since it has been in android since its inception.
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I believe that most open source software is covered under a few different license's all of witch state commercial use is prohibited so it is protected just like any other patent or copyright in the end google has some nice ammo with the notification system since it has been in android since its inception.
Let's see if Google patented their notification bar then.
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So what you're saying is if someone brings a gun into a school and starts murdering children we should direct our anger towards the government for allowing that person to buy a gun?


Just because a system is flawed it doesn't give them an excuse for amoral behaviour. Apple isn't doing this to protect their assets or even to make a profit through licensing like Microsoft does. They are doing this with the sole intention of harming their competition, since we all know it was the late Steve Jobs' mission to completely destroy Android. Aside from the obvious patent misuse that's an anti-trust violation, and should land Apple in the same hot water as Microsoft in the 90s.
A guy with a gun in a school is the best analogy you have, seriously?

C'mon Nathris, you may be a blind, arrogant Android fan but even you're more intelligent than that analogy.

Yes they are doing this to protect their assets. The slide to unlock feature is a main aspect of their GUI as is the design of the iPhone. Hence why they go after people hard when they try and copy it.

Android is basically a creation born out of necessity for competition to iOS yet you frivolously defend it like the very creation of iOS exists simply to piss Android off.

Remember which one came first, remember which one innovated, remember which company made it main stream.

You may not like Apple products, and I can accept that. But jesus man, you need to relax and open your eyes.

I never even said it was right what they did, however when these patents are being accepted they're not going to stop! A lot of things in this world are wrong, a lot of the practices Google employ, I do not necessarily agree with but that's life. Get over it.

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I believe his point was that Apple is getting Samsung products banned based strictly on aesthetic.
Ferrari's legal team went ballistic when they found out Toyota MR2 owners were using body kits to make Ferrari look-a-likes. Aesthetics are what we associate products with unfortunate.

I own a Galaxy SII, and I can understand why Apple sued Samsung, this thing is virtually an iPhone clone in terms of aesthetics and GUI.
Edited by IcedEarth - 10/26/11 at 3:01pm
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