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Originally Posted by IcedEarth;15465207 
That's just arguing semantics.

That is true, but still factual none the less. biggrin.gif
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post #242 of 326
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Originally Posted by SprayN'Pray;15456733 
So you're saying that my LG Sentio, a standard feature phone, is infringing on Apple's patents?

as is my straight talk touch screen phone, this is just ridiculous and shows how much our patent office needs to GET WITH THE TIMES
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post #243 of 326
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Originally Posted by nathris;15465218 
Faster and more feature rich isn't better?

Source?
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Originally Posted by nathris;15465218 
Faster and more feature rich isn't better? Apple's only real strength has been App availability, and that's quickly eroding as most of Apple's loyal developers are also developing on Android now.

If you look at the pure strength of the OS, apps aside, Android does more. This is indisputable. The iPhone doesn't support removable storage, or homescreen replacements, flash, dynamic resolution, widgets, 2 dimensional icon placement, near field communication, LTE, app sideloading, among other things.

You may prefer the iPhone, but it terms of measurable quantities Android is a more powerful OS, and its moving faster than Apple can keep up, so they have to resort to exploiting the legal system.

What use is all of this hardware without the software to accompany it?

My Galaxy SII absolutely rips the iPhone 4 apart in regards to hardware, and yet the quality and content of the apps available in iOS far surpass that of Android. Which makes the hardware all but useless.

How is it moving faster than Apple can keep up? Every time Apple release a new phone they smash their previous pre-order recorders and unit sales. No Android phone has even come close other than the GSII IIRC. Unless you can provide me with some sales statistics that back up your claim.

I love Android, but all of this hardware is really meaningless at the moment until they start utilising it. I don't care about a silly synthetic benchmark that scores 2K, when there aren't any functional apps that use that power.
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post #245 of 326
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Originally Posted by IcedEarth;15465077 
Why do people fight this so much.

No company had the same kind of app availability process that Apple designed. No one had the same kind of GUI that Apple had supplied. In terms of aesthetics the iPhone was light years ahead of anything currently on the market.

Like it or not, the iPhone was a market changer and a class leader. You don't have to like Apple products to understand that.

Also, iOS was around before Android. The iPhone was released 6 months before the G1, and it was a hell of a lot more refined. I had a G1 when it very first came out and that thing was way behind the iPhone.

Firstly, the App store was almost entirely empty when the iPhone launched. It didn't have any decent apps, and it took nearly a year for it to develop into something worth visiting on a regular basis.

Secondly, the GUI was NOT that much different from phones before it. It was just a little more sleek, like I said before. It was "easier on the eyes", which is not necessarily aesthetically better. I never liked the look of the iPhone's GUI, even when I actually loved Apple products. "Light years ahead" is such an exaggeration it hurts. It was maybe, MAYBE 2 years ahead of it's time. I wouldn't even give it that much credit.

Thirdly, the release of the phone itself does not mean anything. Android was purchased in 2005 by Google while the company had already developed Alpha builds for it. Read carefully: the OS was around before, or at the same time, of the development of iPhone OS/iOS. It is a fact, do not try to deny that.

Lastly, the iPhone was not a market changer. It just made people who would not have paid that kind of money for a phone before, pay that much for a phone because of the brand name. Argue that all you want, but the general public didn't know who BlackBerry/RIM or Palm were, past seeing their high-priced products in the business world. Apple brought people into the world that already existed by marketing to the general public instead of the businessman.

So, again, Apple's only real strength in the war was marketing. It always has been, and always will be. Technologically, they are never ahead. Aesthetically, well, that's subjective.

Edit: I'm honestly just tired of the ignorant arguments on both sides. Neither is 'superior' to the other, but at least get your facts straight.
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sooner or later they are going to patent patents
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post #247 of 326
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Originally Posted by refeek;15464187 
Doubt Google wouldn't make sure that is patented. They're aggressive for patents too, just don't use them offensively often.

This was mostly in reference to the Nexus Prime demo showing the face recognition unlock vs the sliding unlock. Samsung and Google both must have have known that the slide to unlock was patent-pending long before we did. They probably just used the sliding feature until they could find a replacement.

Apple got their slide to unlock patent approved, and that is good for them. They can slide all they like. I am just concerned with what other methods have been in the works that are not patent-pending or already patented that Android users can perform to unlock their phones. Not all phones have the same physical buttons, so they need to come up with a software unlock that is universal for the android phones for users looking for quicker access than entering a password. (not sure if the gestures like making shapes falls under the sliding terms of the patent)

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Originally Posted by MartynRE;15465544 
sooner or later they are going to patent patents

The Patent Office has the patents on patents. biggrin.gif
    
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Originally Posted by refeek;15465393 
Firstly, the App store was almost entirely empty when the iPhone launched. It didn't have any decent apps, and it took nearly a year for it to develop into something worth visiting on a regular basis.

Secondly, the GUI was NOT that much different from phones before it. It was just a little more sleek, like I said before. It was "easier on the eyes", which is not necessarily aesthetically better. I never liked the look of the iPhone's GUI, even when I actually loved Apple products. "Light years ahead" is such an exaggeration it hurts. It was maybe, MAYBE 2 years ahead of it's time. I wouldn't even give it that much credit.

Thirdly, the release of the phone itself does not mean anything. Android was purchased in 2005 by Google while the company had already developed Alpha builds for it. Read carefully: the OS was around before, or at the same time, of the development of iPhone OS/iOS. It is a fact, do not try to deny that.

Lastly, the iPhone was not a market changer. It just made people who would not have paid that kind of money for a phone before, pay that much for a phone because of the brand name. Argue that all you want, but the general public didn't know who BlackBerry/RIM or Palm were, past seeing their high-priced products in the business world. Apple brought people into the world that already existed by marketing to the general public instead of the businessman.

So, again, Apple's only real strength in the war was marketing. It always has been, and always will be. Technologically, they are never ahead. Aesthetically, well, that's subjective.

Edit: I'm honestly just tired of the ignorant arguments on both sides. Neither is 'superior' to the other, but at least get your facts straight.

Looks like you need to do some fact checking. Nothing worse than when someone spouts false info then tell others to get their facts straight.

1.) The app store didn't exist at all when the iPhone first came out. So I wonder how you came up with what you did (i.e. you're just talking out your you know what).
2.) The multitouch GUI on the iPhone was wildly different than anything else on the market at the time. Popular companies like RIM didn't even think it was possible.
3.)The release of the phone gets the software into the hands of consumers which is what these companies want and what they fight over. It's absolutely critical. Saying it doesn't mean anything is nuts.
4.)The iPhone was not a market changer? Are you serious? Like....for real? The general public was gobbling up RIM Blackberries back then. Ever hear of the term crackberry?? That was ALL the rage.

Where do you guys come up with this stuff?
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Originally Posted by Psykhotic;15465277 
Source?
You don't need to cite a source for common knowledge.
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