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lol you bash apple for applying numerous sometimes ridiculous patents, yet, as a publicly held company, they have to make decisions that increase the value of the stocks of shareholders, and if it means patenting a feature found on many smart phones, then great! more cash in. Its how a capitalist system works, how any business functions, to make money, and it did, they actually got the injunction in Europe over the galaxy tablet. We can all complain, but to apple, they dont really give a s****
Once upon a time, businesses could make profits AND have a sense of morals.

The problem is that people with your mindset kept excusing businesses that had no ethics, as long as profits were great.

If we're going to turn a blind eye to unethical businesses ( and yes, a business can lack ethics while following the LETTER of the law ) then Corporate Personhood needs to be abolished. You can't be a soulless corporation AND enjoy personal rights.

BTW, capitalism needs checks and balances too. Capitalism w/o ethics or morals is pure greed and bad things happen when pure greed is what leads your nation.
    
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I agree with your statement, it's people like yourself, Steelbom, ForumViewer, HellonWheels that ruin these type of threads.

Everything else makes sense.

Back on topic, I hope Google patents the "Face Unlock" found on the Nexus. That way when Apple innovates copies it, they'll have to pay. Fight fire with fire.
I've had enough of your complaining. I don't say zip about you or anyone else for that matter, so just be quiet. The only people who ruin threads are trolls, haters, and people like yourself who make it personal and attack individual members because you disagree with their opinion(s) saying things such as "You ruin threads", "You should be banned", "Your a fanboy", and so on. It's immature, pointless, and it subtracts from the community and especially so if it provokes the other person to also retort with similar remarks.
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What do you mean "you'd get an extra 30% content"? I suppose everything would be bigger, but you'd still have the same amount of content.
You have to understand that once you get past the threshold the eye can see it doesn't make any difference. I have acute vision, and can just resolve the spaces between the pixels on the iPhone 4's display, but I've ton a ton of tests and I can't tell the difference in density from 1' out between my 252 PPI Desire and the 329 PPI iPhone 4. I have to hold the phones 5" from my face before I can tell the difference.

If you can't see the individual pixels the physical resolution doesn't matter. The iPhone 4 could be 960x640 or 96000x64000 and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference with your eye alone. It would physically look the same.

What does matter is the DPI scaling. If you had a 3.5" iPhone 4 and measured a letter in an app and found that it's real world height was 3mm, it would still be 3mm on a 4" iPhone 5 screen. The difference being that the letter would take up less of the 4" screen, so you could fit more letters on it.

Here is the simplest example I can come up with:



The size ratio between the two screen is the same as that between a 4" and 3.5" screen. The text is the same size with the same line height and the same margins. The difference is that the text on the left would be at 288 DPI while the one on the right would be 329 DPI. The two densities are completely indistinguishable from each other when held at greater than 3-4" from your face, the 'H's on the left would look just as sharp as the 'H's on the right, despite being made up of less pixels.

Thanks to the larger area you can fit 33% more 'H's on the 4" screen, despite them being the same resolution. Now replace the 'H's with words in a book, or an article in Safari, or a list of apps or music in the App store or music player, and you'll see where the extra 33% comes from.


Now you're probably thinking that you could just decrease the size of the Hs of the screen on the right to match the DPI of the screen on the left. But what if the size is already as small as you're comfortable with? Making the text physically smaller would make it look blurry, as you'd be extending the text beyond your range of vision.
    
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In business, it's fine to patent an innovative invention.

But the swipe unlock? That is just absurd and silly.

That is like patenting the power button on computers or the 3 second power up and down timer.

What are they gonna patent next? Using your thumb to control the phone?
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I've had enough of your complaining. I don't say zip about you or anyone else for that matter, so just be quiet. The only people who ruin threads are trolls, haters, and people like yourself who make it personal and attack individual members because you disagree with their opinion(s) saying things such as "You ruin threads", "You should be banned", "Your a fanboy", and so on. It's immature, pointless, and it subtracts from the community and especially so if it provokes the other person to also retort with similar remarks.
Did you bother to read the POST I replied to? I merely mocked the ludicrous statements he made, hence the ":.

Perhaps you should reply to him prior to replying to me, if that's how you truly feel.

Here it is in case you missed it.
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I think any Apple related threads should be banned from posting in the news section.

You're always going to have the delusional, disconnected and disoriented lala land people making a fool of themselves and causing a chain reaction of stupid.

Edited by 2010rig - 10/27/11 at 12:15am
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Right I am going to stick my head in between the crossfire of haters and fanboys to say that the people in the Patent Office Need a kick up the ass for allowing such vague patents
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What's next, are they gonna patent the power button?
They should just patent the processor and get it over and done with. They would be the only person who can build a Computer then.

(i haven't looked if there already is patents on it)
 
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Money talks my slider rocks.
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Originally Posted by FuNkDrSpOt View Post
Once upon a time, businesses could make profits AND have a sense of morals.

The problem is that people with your mindset kept excusing businesses that had no ethics, as long as profits were great.

If we're going to turn a blind eye to unethical businesses ( and yes, a business can lack ethics while following the LETTER of the law ) then Corporate Personhood needs to be abolished. You can't be a soulless corporation AND enjoy personal rights.

BTW, capitalism needs checks and balances too. Capitalism w/o ethics or morals is pure greed and bad things happen when pure greed is what leads your nation.

lol capitalism w/o ethics is pure greed? welcome to america

i know its unethical, but in the end, we're just ordinary people protesting ( like the wall street protests) and apple dosnt care because their making hundreds of thousands maybe even millions from what their doing

if you were a in upper management and you could make 900k dollars today by patenting something that people would complain about, would you do it? you would lose out on a chance to make big money just because people are gonna cry about it? chances are, if you were in upper management you got there because you made choices like this already.

about the wall street protests, we cant jsut stand there and protest, at the end of the day, we spent so much time standing on the cold street corner yelling at the top of our lungs, and the hedge fund managers and bankers jsut go home in their nice cars and relax in their mansions. if we're really gonna make a dent, we should really make a literal dent. look at France, the government is scared of their people, because if their government gave 700 billion to the banks in France, there would for sure be riots, i doubt there would even be a unburnt range rover left for the board members to drive home in
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You have to understand that once you get past the threshold the eye can see it doesn't make any difference. I have acute vision, and can just resolve the spaces between the pixels on the iPhone 4's display, but I've ton a ton of tests and I can't tell the difference in density from 1' out between my 252 PPI Desire and the 329 PPI iPhone 4. I have to hold the phones 5" from my face before I can tell the difference.

If you can't see the individual pixels the physical resolution doesn't matter. The iPhone 4 could be 960x640 or 96000x64000 and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference with your eye alone. It would physically look the same.
You can still see some jaggies on the icons in iOS though, and in any games you play.
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What does matter is the DPI scaling. If you had a 3.5" iPhone 4 and measured a letter in an app and found that it's real world height was 3mm, it would still be 3mm on a 4" iPhone 5 screen. The difference being that the letter would take up less of the 4" screen, so you could fit more letters on it.

Here is the simplest example I can come up with:



The size ratio between the two screen is the same as that between a 4" and 3.5" screen. The text is the same size with the same line height and the same margins. The difference is that the text on the left would be at 288 DPI while the one on the right would be 329 DPI. The two densities are completely indistinguishable from each other when held at greater than 3-4" from your face, the 'H's on the left would look just as sharp as the 'H's on the right, despite being made up of less pixels.

Thanks to the larger area you can fit 33% more 'H's on the 4" screen, despite them being the same resolution. Now replace the 'H's with words in a book, or an article in Safari, or a list of apps or music in the App store or music player, and you'll see where the extra 33% comes from.

Now you're probably thinking that you could just decrease the size of the Hs of the screen on the right to match the DPI of the screen on the left. But what if the size is already as small as you're comfortable with? Making the text physically smaller would make it look blurry, as you'd be extending the text beyond your range of vision.
Actually, everything will be proportionally larger. That letter on the iPhone 5 will be larger than it was on the iPhone 4, since the pixels are physically larger and need to be stretched further across the display. Look at a 23" monitor with a 1080p resolution and then a 27" monitor with a 1080p resolution, you'll see the same content much larger on the latter. The only way to fit more content would be to proportionally shrink the UI according to the increase in screen size, which in my mind would be very difficult.
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Did you bother to read the POST I replied to? I merely mocked the ludicrous statements he made, hence the ":.

Perhaps you should reply to him prior to replying to me, if that's how you truly feel.

Here it is in case you missed it.
Mmm, I did read his post and it didn't bother me at all -- it wasn't directed specifically at anyone. What was your point then by mentioning myself and the others? I read it literally?
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