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Hi im considering to buy xfx 6950 2gb version
But how can i know if it will unlock? And is there a way to damage the card?
 
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There are many ways to damage a card like hitting it with a hammer but you probably didn't mean that.
Unlocking means to flash a 6970 BIOS. The possibility to brake the card is there, but very very small, and I don't know any way how you might be able to tell beforehand if the card is unlockable or not. You might search in forums to see if folks had more luck with a brand or the other, that's about as far as it goes.
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Here, I think this will answer all your questions:

http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/159

Remember, get a reference card, nothing fancy. Google the model number just to make sure.
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Originally Posted by Zvejniex View Post
Hi im considering to buy xfx 6950 2gb version
But how can i know if it will unlock? And is there a way to damage the card?
You don't know until you buy the card and try to unlock, if it's a reference design most likely will let you unlock the locked shaders. Problem is, they are no longer available BNIB unless you buy one used. There's no way to brick/damage the card if you do it right and knowing what you do before flashing the BIOS.

Shaders unlockable 6950s:

1. Laser cut GPU core.
2. Bios flash locked, even hard mod will not help.
3. Combination of the above.

The left picture is a locked shaders count and the right is after shaders unlocked.

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Frankly, the NON-Reference XFX cards don't have a particularly strong history of Un-Locking and I wouldn't personally recommend them ...

IF you want the EASIEST Option at SAFELY Un-Locking an AMD HD-6950 card I recommend you look at my post ... http://www.overclock.net/amd-ati/114...l#post15399342 ...
In it you'll find a listing of the BEST Non-Ref Rev2 HD-6950 Model's with the DUAL BIOS /& Switch that makes unlocking as risk free as possible and potentially you don't even need to know how to FLASH the card, so ZERO chance of you BRICKING the card, but with a DUAL or SECOND BIOS on the card, even if you do, you still have a safety backup.

Good Luck
   
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Ken 1649 and LAKings good advice.

One card to stay away from though it pains to say, is the Sapphire Dirt 3. There's been some cards that have gone out instead of Cayman chips like their supposed to be went out with Antilles chips. They were laser cut which disables the possibility of unlocking.

I'm not sure the exact reason for this. It could be shortage of Cayman and surplus of Antilles but a 6950 is supposed to be Cayman.

Anyway those who've received the Antilles versions with their Sapphire Dirt 3 GPU's have all been unsuccessful to unlock the shaders.

I would strongly suggest the Sapphire Toxic AMD 6950 over any other 6950 out there IMO. It's the safest bet and comes with the DUAL BIOS switch. One hell of a card.

Also last piece of suggestion, if you do go with a reference GPU, please keep in mind it may not be unlockable anyway. Odds are you will, but there have been some that couldn't.

If your honestly looking for 6970 performance and your not willing to take the slightest chance then please by all means buy a 6970. It's 100% going to give you the performance you want.

Vendors have been doing great sales on the 6950 due to the unlocking capabilities, but it's sort of a mixed bag. I'm speculating - the 6970 sales aren't as strong and their over stocked compared to the 6950's which are harder to find as they go quicker than a hot dog in a school of piranha.

I have a strong feeling they are starting to disable the shaders so their sales/revenue go higher and they can unload the 6970's before the next gen cards hit store shelves.

BTW, Zvejniex - Welcome to OCN
     
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Arizonian,

While I know the Sapphire DIRT3 card has had some reports of Antilles laser cut GPU chips ... I've read MORE successful stories of UN-Locks than Reports of the Antilles chips, and that includes even recently ... so while I'd agree with you it's chances have lessened recently and are certainly well below that of the Sapphire TOXIC and of the MSI PE/OC TwinFrozrIII cards, it is STILL higher than the MAJORITY of HD-6950 cards from Asus, XFX, Gigabyte, HIS, PowerColor, Diamond, VisoinTek etc.

So to say STAY AWAY ! from it is I think a bit too extreme of a statement, especially considering the savings, and considering that even IF it doesn't UN-Lock it's still one of the better Over-Clocking Cards and it has a decent Dual fan cooler. I mean it still COULD un-lock ... where as most likely the OP's XFX card WILL NOT.

Anyways, you did the right thing warning the OP of this, and I should have added something in my post about the issue, as I knew about it also, but IMO it's more about the chance is LESS than before, but still better than many others, so use prudent judgment rather than abandon the option of the DIRT3 card all together, if that makes sense ?
   
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Originally Posted by LA_Kings_Fan View Post
Arizonian,

While I know the Sapphire DIRT3 card has had some reports of Antilles laser cut GPU chips ... I've read MORE successful stories of UN-Locks than Reports of the Antilles chips, and that includes even recently ... so while I'd agree with you it's chances have lessened recently and are certainly well below that of the Sapphire TOXIC and of the MSI PE/OC TwinFrozrIII cards, it is STILL higher than the MAJORITY of HD-6950 cards from Asus, XFX, Gigabyte, HIS, PowerColor, Diamond, VisoinTek etc.

So to say STAY AWAY ! from it is I think a bit too extreme of a statement, especially considering the savings, and considering that even IF it doesn't UN-Lock it's still one of the better Over-Clocking Cards and it has a decent Dual fan cooler. I mean it still COULD un-lock ... where as most likely the OP's XFX card WILL NOT.

Anyways, you did the right thing warning the OP of this, and I should have added something in my post about the issue, as I knew about it also, but IMO it's more about the chance is LESS than before, but still better than many others, so use prudent judgment rather than abandon the option of the DIRT3 card all together, if that makes sense ?
It does make sense. Only I personally wouldn't take the chance with my own money for the Dirt3 version, thus my advice was opinion with some fact. Only the Cayman versions of the Dirt3 unlock, none of the Antilles versions have. You know more than anyone I think that Sapphire are great AMD cards. Hence why I strongly suggested he go with the Sapphire Toxic.

I also fully agree with you about XFX unlocking possibility not good, if at all.

I gave the warning because in those instances where the card dosen't unlock you have an upset post where the OP was expecting it to unlock as if it was meant to be. Just warning him about some possible grief and gamble.

I know that a heavily over clocked 6950 even without being unlocked still can OC as high as an unlocked 6950. Great OC'ers.
     
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Oh btw Arizonian ... http://www.overclock.net/amd-ati/115...ean-6970s.html ... see I told ya the DIRT3 card was still a viable option j/k
   
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I know your pulling my leg LA
     
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