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I'm looking to build a small form factor PC to be used in my garage. I'd like to go with something that's pretty small, like a MiniITX so that I can mount the case right under my workbench or behind my TV/Monitor that is hanging on the wall.

Obviously I won't be doing any gaming or anything to super intensive. Surfing the net, streaming Pandora - those types of things.

Any suggestions on parts?
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Really depends on what you're looking to spend, whether you want to buy new or used and how much overhead you want. With what you said you'll be doing you could go Core 2 Duo/Quad. But at the same time a Llano system would be very low power consumption and work just as well. Mini-ITX Sandy Bridge is another option. Did you have a budget in mind?

As far as Mini-ITX boards go I'd grab a Zotac, they seem to be one of the best for the form factor.
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I'd say if I could keep the price under $400 that would be great. I'd like to have something that's as power efficient as possible while still being usable. Certainly nothing that's top of the line I wouldn't think. Another concern is space as I don't want a hung pc taking up bench, wall or floor space. To help save space I was thinking about going with a MiniITX board and a laptop HDD.
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this case, Antec ISK 100 $69.99





i3-2100 $103.99 with code (SPOOKY $15 off)



http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?...155-CPU-Retail

Foxconn H67S LGA 1155 Motherboard $54.99 (with $4.99 shipping)



http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813186211

Crucial Ballistix sport 4GB $24.99



http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148419

OCZ Vertex Plus 120GB SSD $138.99



http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227739

All up, this build would be $398 (without the rebates which would take a couple more $$$ off the price)
Edited by adjas - 10/26/11 at 7:51am
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I say go with a Zacate board. There are plenty that are mITX and they are pretty cheap for cpu/mobo/gpu all together. They are better than the Intel Atoms and use barely any power. It's great for internet usage.



Just grab some VESA screws (Link) and you are set.
     
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Would there be any issue using the Antec ISK 100 case from adjas's build with armourcore's components?

Also is a 90W power supply really going to be enough? I was thinking I was going to need a full size power supply.
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Here's my suggestion.

Foxconn E-350 barebones $175

single 4GB DDR3 SODIMM $22

Samsung 830 64GB SSD $130

$327 total

The reasons for these parts combo are:
1) Very power efficient, especially with the small power brick. I don't have one of these, but do have an older version with a dual core Atom. It used around 2/3 the power as another dual core Atom that used a normal PSU.
2) Very small. It is the size of a wireless router.
3) Comes with VESA mount, so can mount behind a monitor right out of the box.
4) Comes with WiFi built-in.
5) Most people consider the E-350 APU to be sufficient for web browsing. It certainly is faster than any current Atom.
6) The SSD will make it feel really fast/snappy. The Samsung 830 is possibly the latest/greatest on the market. It has high performance numbers, plus Samsung (so far) has an unblemished reputation. Can't say the same for OCZ in particular, but pretty much all other SSD makers have had to release updated firmware, except for Samsung.

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Antec ISK 100 $69.99

i3-2100 $103.99

Foxconn H67S LGA 1155 Motherboard $54.99

Crucial Ballistix sport 4GB $24.99

OCZ Vertex Plus 120GB SSD $138.99
Off to a good start with that case. CPU-wise, can go even cheaper. The Core i3-2100 has HyperThreading, which doesn't add anything to the web browsing experience. A Pentium G620 or even Celeron G530 would suffice. All three of these CPUs are dual core Sandy Bridge.

For memory, save a couple bucks and go with a cheap DDR3-1333 (fastest that motherboard/chipset supports) single stick of 4GB. Why single stick? Well, the memory controller is only single channel meaning there is ZERO performance benefit from dual sticks, so that leaves an upgrade slot.

I'd pass on that SSD. Taken with a grain of salt of course, but not only does OCZ currently have a lousy reputation, that particular drive has 50% 1/5 ratings. It is also based on the original Indilinx controller (with updated firmware) so even if it works perfectly fine, performance compared to newer controllers will be pretty "meh."

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Originally Posted by armourcore9brker View Post
That wouldn't be a bad combo, after replacing the 5400RPM notebook drive with an SSD. It's just like my combo, except larger and w/o WiFi.

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Would there be any issue using the Antec ISK 100 case from adjas's build with armourcore's components?

Also is a 90W power supply really going to be enough? I was thinking I was going to need a full size power supply.
Shouldn't be any problems.

90W is fine for a dual core Sandy Bridge with integrated graphics. It is also around 3x more than needed for an E-350, which has an 18W TDP (that includes Northbridge and graphics functionality).
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Would there be any issue using the Antec ISK 100 case from adjas's build with armourcore's components?

Also is a 90W power supply really going to be enough? I was thinking I was going to need a full size power supply.
No issues, and yeah that psu is plenty for that little guy.

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WOW that's crazy. I would have never guessed they where that power friendly.

Zap, I do like the reviews on your SSD much better then the OCZ. The bad reviews on the OCZ was the first thing I noticed as well. SSD is a bit more then what I was wanting to spend, but then again being in a garage an SSD might be better in terms of no moving parts.

Also being in a garage, I'm thinking the Antec case might be better suited with it's more airflow. As far as mounting, I've never mounted a computer to a TV but from the looks of it there isn't a way to mount that Foxconn case to the TV and will have the TV mounted to the wall. My plan was to just make a bracket behind the TV on the wall and put the case there if it was small enough.
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That wouldn't be a bad combo, after replacing the 5400RPM notebook drive with an SSD. It's just like my combo, except larger and w/o WiFi.
Yeah yeah yeah.

I didn't look at the barebones stuff. I figured that opting out of an SSD would save some cash since the main purpose is not full blown multi-tasking but only on the web (which is usually bottlenecked by the network if you don't have 50+ tabs open). I don't see how no moving parts is relevant to a garage setting but oh well. I've only parked cars in garages, never really worked in them.

On the mounting thing. Just take the vesa mount that comes with it. "Make" a vesa pattern on the wall and use that.

The airflow is almost a non-concern. The e350s run relatively cool. That barebones Zap showed is really the equivalent of a laptop cooler and that works fine for what it is.
     
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