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Hi guys, this is my first time building/customizing a PC for myself so I decided to come here to ask for some advice. Basically I'm going to be using this PC for gaming for the next 3/4/5 years, and these are the components I've roughly decided on:

Intel I7 2600k 3.4 GHz processor
ASUS Maximus Extreme Z-Motherboard (8x/16x/16x tri-SLI support)
8GB DDR3 RAM (2x4)
Nvidia GTX 590 GPU
1TB HDD
Coolermaster Silent Pro (1200w)
CPU Fan, Cooling,etc.

Basically I chose the ASUS Mobo to give myself the option of putting more GPUs in future when I have more $, but I've read some opinions on the net about 1155 vs 1366 mobos, and how 1366 can do quad GPU-sli. After reading all the debates/discussions/reviews on the net, I'm still quite confused about the following question and was hoping to get an answer here:

My question is which can run games more efficiently, a 1366 mobo with quad-SLI and I7-9xx processor, or a 1155 Mobo with tri-SLI and 2xxxk processor? Will quad-graphic SLI boost performance substantially?

Feel free to advice me on other parts as well, thank you very much!
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before anyone can help we need to know what are you using this computer for?
 
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I would go with the Asrock Extreme7 if you plan on adding more GPU>s< (Tri-Sli) as it allows Tri SLI with a single slot in between every GPU for cooling. If you dont plan on going that far, you can still stick with the E7/ even the E4 / P8Z68 Gen3 as they are cheaper and OCs very well as well. A Maximus-Z works but so do other mobos, and they do it for alot cheaper.

If you have the money, I would go with an AX1200 or an Enermax/Silverstone, instead of sticking with CM for a 1200W.

Get an SSD (M4 120Gb), trust me, you seem to be new here, so I will tell you this. A SSD is the greatest and biggest upgrade I have made to my PC ever. I placed an SSD in my cousins PC for boot and it blew him away and then some. Then have the 1Tb as storage. You have the budget for a Maximus-Z and a 590, so get an SSD.

Where's the case may I ask?

Mid Tower: Fractal Define Design R3, fits a 590, looks sleek and works well. (get the XL if you plan to get longer cards) Quiet as hell too. Used it for a secondary build, no regrets.
Corsair Carbide 500r/HAF 932

Full Tower: For cooling: Air: HAF-X no competition; Water: HAF-X for budget WC/ 800d or Silverstone TJ07

Cooler: For your budget : a Noctua D14/H100. cheaper: Noctua U12/212plus. OR custom Rasa kit.

I am pretty sure a 1155 can do quad SLI (2 590s), but honestly, the amount of driver issues with 4 GPUs are so vast, it is not even worth the money and trouble. The noise will be abysmal as well. No point going 1366 at this point of time with 1155 being more powerful and more power efficient. The furthest I will go is 6990+6970 or 580 SLI. Both of which are more than enough if you are running 1080p or even 1500p. For 3 monitors, go with 3Gb 580s / 6990+6970.
    
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before anyone can help we need to know what are you using this computer for?
"Basically I am going to be using this PC for gaming..."
    
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Oh right, thanks.

The case will be a NZXT TEMPREST 410. So for better performance the SSD definitely blows HDDs out of the water? Thanks!

Oh and for cooling well basically would a NZXT HAVIK 140 CPU fan be enough?

This rig would probably be used for gaming for the next 3/4/5 years..
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For single display a GTX 590 is a big overkill. A GTX 560 Ti/570 will be just fine. Best bang for buck too. Also 570's scale godly in SLI.
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You're much better off spending $1200 on a PC now and upgrading in 1-2 yrs, rather than spending $2.5k now and upgrading in 3-5 years.

Simple reason is the tech moves so quickly stuff becomes outdated fast.

This way, ultimately you're spending the same amount of money (technically less if you account for inflation), but your PC stays relevant longer.

Also, you REALLY don't need quad or tri anything unless you plan on using 3D/120hz monitors or eyefinity/surround.

SLI and xfire scaling is actually bad enough beyond 3, that there really is no point going from 3 to 4 GPU's.

Really your best bet if you aren't going with 1 of the above is to just grab a 2500k and 2 midrange GPU's (570's or 6950's) and an SSD.

Whole build should be under $1200 easy and will play anything out for the next few years. Remember, till new consoles come out, there will be very few games pushing the performance envelope. Even BF3, ppl have been running fine maxed out with a single 6970 or 580 at 1080p.
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Crucial m4. I5 2500k. 560 TI or even a 460. I like that mobo so ya.
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If you are using for gaming save yourself some money and get a 2500k For gaming there is virtually no performance increase between the two.

As far as the psu, I'd have to agree with sloppyjoe the Corsair 1200AX is well worth the money. And corsair has a wonderful rma and customer service. You'll see when things go wrong, youll want to have bought from companies that are good to their customers.

IF you are looking for a SSD (which you should be) the Crucial M4 is the best drive to date with virtually NO stability issues.

Looking for a HDD look at the 1tb caviar black from Western Digital. Grat Brand and great hard drive with good read/write times for better performance.

As far as the nvidia gtx 590, If possible I would sli two gtx 580's. You will get better performance from Sli'iing as the gtx 590 is essentially two overclocked gtx 570's with 1.5gb vram. IF you are looking into a multi monitor setup look at the EVGA gtx 580 3gb classified cards. If you are looking into having one monitor, look for card with about 1.5gb vram. Thats all you will need.

As far as ram goes look at the corsair vengance ram. Has great reviews and is very stable.

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So for better performance the SSD definitely blows HDDs out of the water?
It is not even close...SSD way outperform HDD's

Crucial M4:


WD Caviar Black:

Maximum Read: 106
Maximum Write: 106
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...te,2017-6.html
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Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Crucial C300 256GB SSD / WD Caviar Black 1TB / ... Samsung Blu-Ray burner Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit (3x) ASUS VG236HE w/ XFX Tri-Stand & amBX Lights 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech g510 Corsair AX 1200W Corsair Obsidian 800D Razer Deathadder 
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(4) HITACHI Deskstar 0S03230 3TB 5400 RPM   Crucial M4 64GB  SAMSUNG Black Blu-ray Combo SATA Model SH-B123L Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium  
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Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Crucial C300 256GB SSD / WD Caviar Black 1TB / ... Samsung Blu-Ray burner Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit (3x) ASUS VG236HE w/ XFX Tri-Stand & amBX Lights 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech g510 Corsair AX 1200W Corsair Obsidian 800D Razer Deathadder 
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AMD A6-3500 Llano 2.1GHz   ASRock A75M FM1 AMD A75 ASUS ENGT430 G.SKILL 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 160 
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(4) HITACHI Deskstar 0S03230 3TB 5400 RPM   Crucial M4 64GB  SAMSUNG Black Blu-ray Combo SATA Model SH-B123L Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium  
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Ok, so basically replace the CM 1200w with a 1200 AX cosair? That's good, its cheaper by 70 bucks over here.

For RAM i was planning on using ripjaw-x's DDR3 1600 CL9(2x4), but cosair is better?

Thanks for all the advice so far!
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