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Updating between games:
11.11 c with CAP2 = buttery smooth with 6870's
Better than 11.11a with 11.9 cap 4?
Any 6950 owners confirming?
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Edit: Disregard this! I thought I was in the Skyrim 11.11c thread
Edited by Nexus6 - 12/2/11 at 5:30am
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Edit: Disregard this! I thought I was in the Skyrim 11.11c thread

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LOL! I wanna hear some 6970 CFX users before I hit the install button on the 11.11c's.

Sorry, I have lost a little faith in the driver updates. I have it working pretty good, so I really don't want to screw it up.
 
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I've been following this thread for a several weeks now and have tried everything in here. None of the driver/cap combos or other 'tricks' has gotten me away from the 35% usage on each of my 6970's on the large maps.. Metro's really not very much better either.

What I've noticed though is that it just seems to be those of us with AMD CPU's that are consistently stuck like this.. (or at least talking about it) I'm running a 940be @ 3.6.. I've tried @ 3.0-3.8 and there is no difference at all.

As a matter of fact, I've consistently observed that I get worse avg fps and gpu usage using any cap at all.. I just tried 11.11c and cap 11.11-2 and was only getting 24-25% usage on each gpu.. Uninstalled cap and right back up at 35-40% each.. I dunno lol.. The only time the usage gets any better is when I'm scoped and most of the map is blocked out.. Then, I'll see the usage jump up to 80-98% each..

What I would like to know from you Intel guys with CFX 6xxx setups is what exactly are the GPU usages you're seeing? I've got a pretty big decision to make about what to upgrade here and would love some input about what you are getting ingame. I'm riding the fence over an 1100t @ $200'ish or switching over to an Intel setup at around $700'ish.. (cpu, mobo, ram)

Oh, yeah.. ghost.. along with the clean driver install advice you've given, a good tip is to check if there are any 'hidden' drivers remaining in device manager for the display adapters..
1. open cmd prompt
2. type or paste "set devmgr_show_nonpresent_devices=1"
3. type or paste "start devmgmt.msc"
4. device manager will open from the 2nd command
5. click up top on 'View'
6. click on 'Show Hidden Devices'
7. check your Display adapters
8. if there are some that are grayed out, they are remnants from a previous install(s)
9. right click and delete each
10. reboot

From there, I'd recommend uninstalling and clean reinstalling current drivers.. (driver sweeper etc..)
Edited by citizenatlarge - 12/3/11 at 11:29am
post #316 of 766
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I've been following this thread for a several weeks now and have tried everything in here. None of the driver/cap combos or other 'tricks' has gotten me away from the 35% usage on each of my 6970's on the large maps.. Metro's really not very much better either.
What I've noticed though is that it just seems to be those of us with AMD CPU's that are consistently stuck like this.. (or at least talking about it) I'm running a 940be @ 3.6.. I've tried @ 3.0-3.8 and there is no difference at all.
As a matter of fact, I've consistently observed that I get worse avg fps and gpu usage using any cap at all.. I just tried 11.11c and cap 11.11-2 and was only getting 24-25% usage on each gpu.. Uninstalled cap and right back up at 35-40% each.. I dunno lol.. The only time the usage gets any better is when I'm scoped and most of the map is blocked out.. Then, I'll see the usage jump up to 80-98% each..
What I would like to know from you Intel guys with CFX 6xxx setups is what exactly are the GPU usages you're seeing? I've got a pretty big decision to make about what to upgrade here and would love some input about what you are getting ingame. I'm riding the fence over an 1100t @ $200'ish or switching over to an Intel setup at around $700'ish.. (cpu, mobo, ram)
Oh, yeah.. ghost.. along with the clean driver install advice you've given, a good tip is to check if there are any 'hidden' drivers remaining in device manager for the display adapters..
1. open cmd prompt
2. type or paste "set devmgr_show_nonpresent_devices=1"
3. type or paste "start devmgmt.msc"
4. cmd prompt will open from the 2nd command
5. click up top on 'View'
6. click on 'Show Hidden Devices'
7. check your Display adapters
8. if there are some that are grayed out, they are remnants from a previous install(s)
9. right click and delete each
10. reboot
From there, I'd recommend uninstalling and clean reinstalling current drivers.. (driver sweeper etc..)

With 11.11 and CAP 2 I was getting almost 100% GPU usage on both my cards, I just installed the 11.11c drivers, so who knows now...
post #317 of 766
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I knew some feathers would be riled up. This is why I am not a die hard AMD or nVidia or Intel fan. I just get the best performing and most consistent card at the time. Plus, I paid for the 580s buy selling parts and I still have the 6990 to sell off.. No one should be spouting that it was a "stupid" or a senseless thing to do to buy a competitor's product. I have built machines with AMD and Intel cpus. I don't speak lines like "I won't ever buy nVidia" or "I won't be caught dead with an Intel cpu." I mean, it is just pointless picking sides so vehemently. I had the money from sales, decided to switch and it was done. I am not the only one that did a switch (from amd to nvidia or vice versa) and shared an honest opinion. Competition is good. I might have AMD in my next build. I might have nVidia. I just test them all.
And please, do not assume I didn't try all the drivers and every combination. The card worked fine as well. It was highly playable. The card didn't have a problem. My problem was about the feeling of smooth and eliminating stutter in games (crossfire support was spotty as well). Switching to nVidia is not a guarantee and the "end all be all" to solve problems. I had the means, weighed the pros and cons, had the time, saved the money, and bit the bullet.
Thank you Ghost for the support.

The problem is not, that you buyed two expensive cards, that are for sure faster than a 6990 or two 5870. My next graphicscards are from Nvidia again, as I never had such problems in games like with my two 5870, neither with my 7950GX2, nore with my 9800GX2. The problem is, that you are posting this as a solution. I could stop playing bf3 (as i did, because of the unsolved stuttering), this would be a solution also, but not useless for anyone here. I could easily afford two GTX590, but I just dont want to, having 150fps in bf3, not beeing able to play it smooth like 150fps.

And I tried 11.11a+11.9cap4 and it worked better than any other combination, having roundabout 90% gpu-load. But since the 11.11 i always have more then 85% gpu-load, but the stuttering is still there. Not such unplayable like at the beginning, but disturbing and making me a bader player. In BfBC2 the gpu-load ist 95%/35% but it runs fine !

I stopped playing bf3, because i dont have the time, to waste it with a bad programmed game. I buyed Serious Same 3, which also runs horrible bad with 30-80fps, having a gpu-load from 35% on both cards. But have Duke Nukem Forever and Portal 2, both just played 2-3h, which are making a lot of fun. BfBC2 runs fine, but i dont want to play it any more, the servers are empty and with bf3 out, but not beeing playable.
post #318 of 766
5970 user here. 11.11c by itself wasn't using the second gpu. I could feel constant stuttering when moving and looking around. MSI afterburner's onscreen display for gpu1 and gpu2 activity was showing near 99% gpu1 and max 50% gpu2. Then Installed 11.11 Cap2, now it's less choppy and activity in MSI afterburner is showing varying activity around the 70-99% on both gpu1 and gpu2. Definite improvement noticeable for me. I've only played couple times after the 11.11c update... I have not bothered to play as much seeing as it's still not completely stable yet.. but I recommend 11.11c and 11.11 cap 2 for sure. And I didnt bother to clean install, too lazy.

Also I posted this in another BF3 discussion thread, but may be useful here too, repost...
"The ingame console command to limit fps is: GameTime.MaxVariableFps #
You can type anything you want for "#" like "0":unlimited to "300" max, and 200 default I think. You could also just type "GameT" then press [TAB] and console will auto-fill the rest for you as there is not another command like.
Could also make a User.cfg notepad/wordpad file in the gamefolder , "[you game drive letter]:\programs x86\Origin Games\Battlefield 3" folder, and just have "GameTime.MaxVariableFps 75" written in the file. Other commands written in there will also be active when u start game. Commands like "render.perfoverlayvisible 1" to see fps stability graphs from your gpu and cpu, and "render.drawfps 1" to see fps. For every command 1 = enable and 0 = disable."
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@ ytsejam
Here's some cold hard truth... The game uses more than 1GB VRAM running ANY of the settings at Ultra.. Eg doesn't matter if your running 2x 5970's the game is still limited by 1GB VRAM being mirrored 4 times (example) just giving you higher FPS than one single 5870...
Is this how your lag looks like?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMF9MznSIjI
The stuttering is an issue on every 1gb VRAM card crossfire or not.
So basically your cards to play BF3 flawlessly would have to bet set to HIGH across everything and MSAA turned off completely.
Try running the game with everything set to HIGH. I tested this on my 5970's before I sold them. (which is the reason I did upsidedwnsmiley.gif )
The only way to play BF3 @ Ultra at this point and time with no issues is to upgrade to a 2GB 69xx card.

Yes, that's exactly how my lag looks like). Thanks for the explanation. I don't mind running the game on lower settings as long as the problem goes away, I'll give it a try.

I'm planning a new build next year (about time!), so my 5770's will have to do it for now.
post #320 of 766
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Originally Posted by Kosai View Post

Anyone using a crossfire setup, use 11.11a + 11.9 CAP 4, PROest ....combo.... EVER
No stutter, fully utilizes all GPU's, best performance I have seen out of so many driver combo's I have tried...
And I run the game flawlessly at Ultra no AA with my sig rig 80+FPS (lowest drop I have seen on Caspain Border) I'm currently only using one of my 5970's
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Again as of 11/23/11 11.11a + 11.9 CAP 4 is the Absolute King.

What program are you using there to check GPU usage?

I am currently using 11.11C with no caps, and while it runs pretty high fps (seems smooth to me) there is quite a bit of microstuttering going on.

Gonna try cap 2 tonight, as apparantly that makes a pretty good difference, but Im running 11.11c so I can use it with Skyrim.

If all else fails I'll do your way, but if I could figure out a tool to see how much GPU is actually being used and what my actual FPS is, that would make the process alot easier.

Running 2x5870s in CF.
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