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I have a Sharp Quattron LED, noticeably quicker than any previous Sony and Panasonic's I've had. Even has a fourth colour in the pixel if you believe Sharp's marketing.
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Originally Posted by fluxlite;15496208 
That's interesting - most xxxHz plasmas only actually accept 60hz inputs and interpolate data between frames to create a smooth look.

Also, every time this topic comes up people confuse input lag with response time with refresh rate biggrin.gif

Input lag = the time it takes for an action to register on the panel (which is affected by MANY things, including input peripheral software, panel processing and buffering/backbuffering)

Response time = the time it takes for a pixel to make a 'full cycle', which is typically quoted as going from grey-to-grey (faster value) or less commonly black-to-black (often double the GTG time).

Refresh rate = an archaic term (still relevant to CRTs and plasmas, however) that makes no sense when talking about LCD panels, but has apparently come to mean 'the rate at which the framebuffer sends information to the monitor'.

Thanks for Clearing that up cheers.gif

See my Current HDTV has like a 2 second input lag. it's only use is for watching Shows :/
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@OP - Just chiming in here...

May I suggest you get a large monitor and use it as your TV? biggrin.gif

(can't believe no one mentioned that yet!)
    
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Originally Posted by GanjaSMK;15501680 
@OP - Just chiming in here...

May I suggest you get a large monitor and use it as your TV? biggrin.gif

(can't believe no one mentioned that yet!)

Good idea if he can afford it, sure.

For reference though:
My 50" Plasma (1080p, really good for gaming) - $800
Dell / HP / Samsung 30" Monitor = $1,000+

If the majority of his uses are going to be TV watching, and console gaming, the TV will be a much better purchase, and he'd be able to get a much larger / better screen for his money honestly.

Just me 2 cents.
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Originally Posted by pioneerisloud;15501840 
Good idea if he can afford it, sure.

For reference though:
My 50" Plasma (1080p, really good for gaming) - $800
Dell / HP / Samsung 30" Monitor = $1,000+

If the majority of his uses are going to be TV watching, and console gaming, the TV will be a much better purchase, and he'd be able to get a much larger / better screen for his money honestly.

Just me 2 cents.

Oh I was just being contrary. biggrin.gif
    
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Originally Posted by pioneerisloud;15501840 
Good idea if he can afford it, sure.

For reference though:
My 50" Plasma (1080p, really good for gaming) - $800
Dell / HP / Samsung 30" Monitor = $1,000+

If the majority of his uses are going to be TV watching, and console gaming, the TV will be a much better purchase, and he'd be able to get a much larger / better screen for his money honestly.

Just me 2 cents.

lol if i could affork a 1K monitor I would be watercooled and OC'ing trough the roof.

I'll take the one with size and Input lag, so long its not a whole second and a half lag tongue.gif

I guess i will go plasma tongue.gif I will eventually get used to it anyways. I have a friend that goes to Halo MLG tourneys every year. it can't be that hard to get used to right? plus everyone on the PS3/Xbox is dealing with this.
(total realization)

I wish i could GO to BB or Fry's and just play My xbox one round on several Tvs lol.

But I am Conviced on Plasma. so thanks everyone biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by Dorianime;15521228 
lol if i could affork a 1K monitor I would be watercooled and OC'ing trough the roof.

I'll take the one with size and Input lag, so long its not a whole second and a half lag tongue.gif

I guess i will go plasma tongue.gif I will eventually get used to it anyways. I have a friend that goes to Halo MLG tourneys every year. it can't be that hard to get used to right? plus everyone on the PS3/Xbox is dealing with this.
(total realization)

I wish i could GO to BB or Fry's and just play My xbox one round on several Tvs lol.

But I am Conviced on Plasma. so thanks everyone biggrin.gif

You should get used to using a TV as a monitor instantly tongue.gif but if you are going to get a 50" TV as a monitor you might want to sit back a few feet (it depends on how good your eyesight is) if you sit to close then it isn't going to look that good. A 50" TV at 1920x1080 from 1 foot away isn't going to look at good as a 32" TV at 1920x1080 from 1 foot away.
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But that is for a specific TV



Now the OP knows not to buy one of those.

try looking for "Plasma Input Lag" in youtube. Most have huge input lags.

Heck test so for yourself (if its not too much of a hassle).. try a CRT with it and a timer.

Do not mistake Input Lag and Response Time.

TN panels still have a place for today smile.gif (generally least input lag among the others)
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Originally Posted by Dorianime;15521228 
lol if i could affork a 1K monitor I would be watercooled and OC'ing trough the roof.

I'll take the one with size and Input lag, so long its not a whole second and a half lag tongue.gif

I guess i will go plasma tongue.gif I will eventually get used to it anyways. I have a friend that goes to Halo MLG tourneys every year. it can't be that hard to get used to right? plus everyone on the PS3/Xbox is dealing with this.
(total realization)

I wish i could GO to BB or Fry's and just play My xbox one round on several Tvs lol.

But I am Conviced on Plasma. so thanks everyone biggrin.gif

Hmm.. Please do make sure about the plasma..

Don't get anything below 1360(/1366x768! Or you may suffer crawling artifacts (more jagged edges) and fuzzy PC texts. I own a 1024x768 42 inch Plasma and it sux azz (but thank God it displays in the correct aspect ratio with HDMI-PC use [1080p and the true 720ps [1366x768 and 1280x720]]

I would first suggest researching about the ff:

Auto Brightness Limiter (brightness pops)
Horizontal Line Bleed (lines across the whole set depending on content)
Flicker (some people are sensitive to flicker like me. Specially on whiter back grounds)
Eye strain - Even if the flicker may not be noticeable, I read somewhere that Plasmas can give you more eyestrain due to how it works. The brain may not detect the flicker but the eyes actually get strained more.
Glare - get blinds or put it somewhere w/o much lighting.


..If you really like to game a lot especially with games with static HUDs, be prepared for Image Retentions and a possiblity of burn in. Be sure to turn on Anti Image Sticking options.

Image Retentions can last up to 2 months as far as I have read around even on current gen Plasmas.

Hopefully you get a Panny Plasma cuz those have more frequent Firmware Updates than the other brand.

The famous D series of Samsung (2011) have brightness pops (ABL).. Hopefully, if you do go that route, you won't be able to notice it.

Better yet, don't believe me and search around at avsforum regarding what I said.

ABL/Brightness Pops.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1328762

Horizontal Line Bleed

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1083853

Then again, if you're in america... You can usually return it and get it exchanged with something else if you end up not liking it.

If you do go LCD though, you may notice "ghosting" specially on larger displays (it also varies from person to person, subjective). Or color shifts if you have friends around that are "picky" with viewing angles or if you don't use the TV head on.

All, in all, LCDs are more user friendly and barely have any consideration compared to plasma displays BUT not it's not for everybody.

I would lean more towards an LCD Panel for gaming and PC usage. ABL and HLB is a btch with PC use.

TL;DR? Here's for the ppl w/ ADHD:

Plasma:

+Great Size/Feature/Price Ratio
+Almost no ghosting, if any
+Best Viewing Angles
+usually better screen uniformity

-chance of noticing "Brightness Fluctuation (ABL)
-change of noticing "Line Bleed".
-Image Retention is inevitable (can be insignificant)
-chance of Burn In
-Reflection and Glare
-Very "lacking" in bright environments

LCDs

+Very Bright and "vivid"
+Have no ABL or HLB
+less monthly bills (or every 2 months)

-generally more expensive (unless you SD a lot or have a Fry's near you)
-"ghosting"
-Not the best viewing angles
-higher chance of worse screen uniformity than plasma (uneven backlight [bleeding])

If you truly value your time and money, please, please, PLEASE.. KNOW what you are getting into. If you're rich and have tons of free time.. spend away smile.gif and get a likelihood of an interesting experience!
Edited by tubers - 10/31/11 at 3:16pm
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Thanks to all of you that helped!

I got a Panasonic Viera TC-P50S30, it's a 50" plasma. It looks Gorgeous! wubsmiley.gif the colors are beautiful, the blacks are great, there is no ghosting and its bright! (as i want it to be)

Got it during black Friday at Best buy for 600 bucks! Have it hooked up to my Home theater Xbox 360 and when i get a long enough HDMI cable, my PC.

The input lag is so minimal that my K/D was at it's usual in halo.

and +1 to all
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