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Hey!
New duder here, been looking around trying to find a good answer for this. I recently bought a MSI 560 Ti Twin Frozr, and to my disappointment the damn thing hit 97 degrees in Shogun 2 as well as Furmark and just crashed on me constantly. I RMAd to the store where I bought it, which claimed it was normal, so I decided to replace the TIM myself instead. I figured since MSIs warranty still covers this, why not.

I'll be using AS5 since it's the only one I could get a hold of, and from what I've been reading here I should be careful not to get any of it outside of the GPU since it's slightly capacitative.

My question just is this really - should I still just drop a peasized glob in the middle of the GPU, and let the heatsink spread it? Or should I spread myself (finger in plastic bag) to make sure it's thin and also so it doesn't get on the card? If so, should I spread on the heatsink as well? I've been reading so many differing opinions on this.

Here's a pic of how the GPU/heatsink looks (cleaned).


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Dude I don't think its worth risking at all, you'd rather spend a couple of £'s and get mx-4/3 rather than kill a £180 card
I'd say do 2 lines running down because its a long gpu, not square like cpu's
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i think second method is better for gpu's
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Dude I don't think its worth risking at all, you'd rather spend a couple of £'s and get mx-4/3 rather than kill a £180 card
I'd say do 2 lines running down because its a long gpu, not square like cpu's
Thanks for your input. Yeah, I know, but since the only pins etc etched around the GPU are a good 5mm out I think it's pretty safe. Couldn't get any other decent TIM from local PC store, and that BF3 itch needs scratching.

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i think second method is better for gpu's
Allright, thanks.

By the way - the VRAM wasn't covered with TIM/pads in any way at all. Is this normal? Haven't seen it on any other card. Should I apply some on them as well? That I don't feel too sure about since they're so small and low.
Edited by Ertard - 10/27/11 at 2:55am
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Thanks for your input. Yeah, I know, but since the only pins etc etched around the GPU are a good 5mm out I think it's pretty safe. Couldn't get any other decent TIM from local PC store, and that BF3 itch needs scratching.


Allright, thanks.

By the way - the VRAM wasn't covered with TIM/pads in any way at all. Is this normal? Haven't seen it on any other card. Should I apply some on them as well? That I don't feel too sure about since they're so small and low.
i know and can understand that BF3 itch, but youd rather be safe than sorry, order some online if you have to

as for the vRAM, not sure if all have thermal pads, waterblocks do because the block restricts them from airflow cooling them down, but air i dont think needs them
post #6 of 10
The TFII card doesn't have any thermal pads or heatsinks for the VRAM. Don't put AS5 on the memory chips b/c there's nothing coming into contact with them. There's no point of doing it. You should buy some low profile ones (cheap ones should do). They might help with your temperatures. I put a huge dot(subjective, I know) of thermal paste in the middle and call it a day.

Also...be VERY careful with the AS5. You might mess up your video card if it drips on the PCB.
    
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Thanks again for the replies. I replaced it today and so far so good - a 7c drop in temperature. Guessing it will be a bit more when it's burned in. But the more important thing is that I can play stuff without it getting so hot that it crashes/damages the card - which is awesome. Didn't put any on VRAM, seemed like a bad idea indeed.

I did spread it btw. Seemed like the safe thing to do. Only took very little, superthin layer on the GPU, nothing on heatsink. I don't know if it would've been better with more, but whatever, this works

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Thanks again for the replies. I replaced it today and so far so good - a 7c drop in temperature. Guessing it will be a bit more when it's burned in. But the more important thing is that I can play stuff without it getting so hot that it crashes/damages the card - which is awesome. Didn't put any on VRAM, seemed like a bad idea indeed.

I did spread it btw. Seemed like the safe thing to do. Only took very little, superthin layer on the GPU, nothing on heatsink. I don't know if it would've been better with more, but whatever, this works

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90C is still pretty high. Have you tried using MSI Afterburner software? It helps overclock the video card, monitor temperatures, & speed control for the fan.
    
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That store you bought it from is full of it. 97C??? that's 2C away from it's Maximum temperature, according to nVidia. That's waaayy too high, specially since you have a TFII. Even my EVGA model has never gone over 75C and that's with The Witcher 2 on 1680x1050 with everything except UberSampling on, and it has a reference HSF, which is not the best.

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90C is still pretty high. Have you tried using MSI Afterburner software? It helps overclock the video card, monitor temperatures, & speed control for the fan.

This. I'm thinking one of your fans isn't working OR it's somehow locked to 30% or 40% fan speed or something low like that. Use Afterburner to monitor that. You can use it's Overhead Display while playing a game to see if your fan speed is going up or getting stuck somewhere.
     
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I know, they're complete ****s.

Fans work fine, I am using Afterburner. 90c is at 90-100% fanspeed. I know something more is wrong, and I'm guessing the heatsink is messed up in some way, not being completely connected.

90c was the temp in Unigine I should add tho. Around 73c in Kombustor 1080 bench, which I would say is fine.
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