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I once had a 2.8GHz P4 with 7 + 1GB of RAM.. It was fine once it was booted rolleyes.gif
ahahah! Yeah, all goes fine until it finally hits 7, and then all I want to do is shoot myself tongue.gif
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Arxontas: WHOA! I love your Toshiba laptop, haha! These days it may not be worth much, but it still seems to run good (or so it looks). My dad had a Dell, P3 700MHz CPU back in 2000, and in 2002, your laptop must have been revolutionary, haha. Can your upgrade your CPU or RAM in your laptop by any chance? tongue.gif

The max that my MOBO will support is 2GB of DDR memory. It used to have 512MB of memory so I upgraded it in order to work more conveniently with it.

I am not sure if I can upgrade my CPU or not, but my laptop would surely benefit from a multi-threaded Northwood as my own Northwood is single core, single thread.

Regarding Windows 7, I am not sure if it's worth it to upgrade to Windows 7. I am afraid that my single core, single thread, Northwood can't handle Windows 7. Anyone who has a similar Northwood with mine and is using WIndows 7?
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My two secondary rigs are P4's.....check sig. wink.gif
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I've got quite a few still going. I recently built a rig for my buddy to play Titan Quest Immortal Throne with a Pentium 4 EE 3.73GHz and it can max the game no problem. While I'm living away from home, my main rig is a Pentium D @ 4.26GHz and it does great, it can multitask and play some pretty high end games too.

My file server has a Cedar Mill 3.6GHz P4

My Linux router has a Northwood P4 2.26GHz (been running 24/7 since 11/4/11)

My parents only computer has a 3.4GHz Pentium D with a solid state drive and the thing does well. They're all old procs that use a lot of power but they're fun to overclock and they can still get the job done as long as you have lots of RAM to back them up, and don't forget to keep them cool tongue.gif
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That is amazing that it still goes.. Have you ever thought of overclocking it if you can or was it an OEM PC?
Haha yeah, my computer is as old as my youngest brother (7 years) and older than my youngest sister (2 years). I'm proud that it still runs, haha. I'm sure it would have failed by now, but the upgrades assisted I believe (CPU, GPU, RAM, additional fans, and hard drives). The CMOS battery once died (failed to start-up), but I replaced it. Haha, don't mean to brag; sorry if I am. frown.gif At least I'm bragging about a Pentium 4, rather than an i7, or an Itanium with Quadro's or something, haha.

The computer actually was pre-built, and my father purchased it (I was about 11 at this time). It came with XP, Intel Celeron D (2.4GHz), 256MB RAM and onboard graphics. But luckily, the motherboard accepted upgrades; and now I'm "maxed out"; can't upgrade any more. I've overclocked the 3GHz P4 with HT to 3.3GHz (please look at my previous screen shot). Haha, but I've also OC'd to 3.4, but voltages can often increase expectation; and my motherboard can't increase voltage. So, I'm sticking to 3.3GHz. smile.gif

Thank you for your reply too, I appreciate your response sincerely.
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The 16GB of RAM is overkill, it never goes past 50% even when I'm trying to with programs.. The only way I can make it go above 40% even is if I run Prime/IBT etc.
Whoa, I never realised 16GB was an overkill, haha. I thought you'd be able to use it up on these modern times with games; I guess if I upgrade 8GB will be more than fine; and should save funds, haha.

You're machine is a bad-man machine, haha what are you doing in this P4 thread? Haha, I feel ashamed to have such a low-performance PC. I bet your computer is quiet too, haha some family members always complain about the sound of my PC. I don't think it's too bad though, haha. I bet you can run almost anything on your PC man! Multi-task with GTA:IV in the background. biggrin.gif
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Yeah, I assumed the card was fairly bad as I'm not good with older graphics cards. Back in the day I never had an actual card like that it was always integrated on the board... The first card I ever had was a 9500GT. Anyway yeah, like I've been saying maybe you should overclock your CPU + GPU? Seeing as your FPS are so low a small increase might mean a noticeable increase in game performance.
Indie games should be good for your PC maybe? WAW would be good if you want a game to play online because of Zombies, NFS Carbon might run.. Most wanted should and underground 2 will. GTA SA will run great, especially with 2GB of RAM and it was made for P4's and Core 2 Duos. It actually runs better on a Core 2 Duo then what it does my PC.
Haha, yeah you're correct though. My GPU is just a low-level card in these modern times, but back in the days, the 6800 (LE, GT, Ultra) was NVIDIA's flagship for the 6 Series.

Thank you for your suggestions again, haha. I've already played San Andreas when I had a Celeron D with 256MB RAM, it ran perfectly fine (I also used to have it on PS2 wink.gif). I believe my P4 is more capable than just games like San Andreas. Look at GTA: SA requirements:

1GHz Pentuim III or AMD Athlon
256MB RAM
8x Speed DVD Drive
3.6 GB Hard Disk Space
64MB Video Card
DirectX 9 compatable sound & video drivers
Keyboard, mouse

No offence or anything, haha, you seem like a top-guy, but I know NFS Carbon will run. My P4 is wayy more powerful than that. Remember though, I am playing games which require Core 2 Duo, and Pentium Dual-Core, so single core based games will run with ease. I play games released around 2009, anything after I can't run, haha. I'm playing CoD:MW2, and Burnout Paradise: The Ultimate Box. Games which require single-core, such as Rainbow Six: Vegas 2 run easy. No lag whatsoever.

Serious with the last statement too? Damn, haha I though your machine would kill everything off. Haha, I'm sure you comp can handle it like a pro. tongue.gif

Thank you for the game suggestions once again! biggrin.gif
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You know what would be funny? That with an SSD.. With an add in PCI card of course. You can also get adapters for a socket 478 to a socket 775 board if you're that keen tongue.gif
Whoa, I can add an SSD with this using a PCI card? I never knew about that, I'll have to look it up. Although all I seem to find is SSD to PCIe adaptors; I don't have any PCIe slots, only PCI and AGP. Haha, SSD's on IDE connection don't seem worthwhile either. But if I can do this, I would definitely add an SSD into this computer. Anything at all to increase performance. biggrin.gif

For a second there too, I though you meant I could run socket 775 processors on my socket 478; I already made plans to purchase a Core 2 Duo. frown.gif Haha. 'Nah, I'm not too keen on upgrading and using a 478 CPU on 775; if I upgrade, the mobo + processor is one thing I will definitely upgrade. Need to get rid of the processor, haha.
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you cant expect miracles but usually a P4 with HT runs it good with at least 1GB of RAM and a regular high clocked P4 is alright and barely ok for general stuff.
Before I upgraded to the maximum specifications my motherboard could handle; I still had Windows 7 installed. At this time I had a Pentium 4, 2.8GHz without Hyper-threading. I repeat, it did not have hyper-threading. My ram was at 1.2GB (1024MB + 256MB) with the same GPU. I also ran Windows 7 quite rapidly. The 2GB RAM has provided a boost in performance; but the HT only enabled me to multi-task better. So a 2.8GHz Prescott P4 isn't much different from my current HT, other than for multi-tasking. My RAM upgrade was the most significant performance boost. wink.gif

At the time, it was not "barely ok for general stuff", I was still playing Burnout Paradise, which requires a Core 2 Duo at recommended; however I didn't attempt to play MW2 at this time. The HT is only good for multi-tasking (i.e. having countless browser tabs open, or having PS CS2 in the background). wink.gif So HT doesn't make much of a difference, unless you're multi-tasking.
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The max that my MOBO will support is 2GB of DDR memory. It used to have 512MB of memory so I upgraded it in order to work more conveniently with it.
I am not sure if I can upgrade my CPU or not, but my laptop would surely benefit from a multi-threaded Northwood as my own Northwood is single core, single thread.
Regarding Windows 7, I am not sure if it's worth it to upgrade to Windows 7. I am afraid that my single core, single thread, Northwood can't handle Windows 7. Anyone who has a similar Northwood with mine and is using WIndows 7?
That sounds amazing! Glad to hear you've upgraded everything. Before I had my HT P4 processor, I also had a P4 at 2.8GHz, but it was a Prescott, not a Northwood. It ran perfectly fine with Windows 7 (at this time, I had 1.2GB RAM too; whereas you have 2GB). Personally I don't see much problems with your laptop running Windows 7; but on this forum, it seems my P4 machine exceeds over other's P4's, unless everyone else is exaggerating, or they have a grudge against the P4, and believe it's weak (whereas my P4 clearly is not; of course if it is compared to all the modern stuff, it is weak, however it's not as bad as people think a P4 is).

If you have good cooling, and you're laptop isn't overcooling/hitting high temperatures; as well, there's no dust or anything to cause more heat being trapped; I think your laptop will run Windows 7 with ease. wink.gif
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well my main system failed early in September, was busy with a new job, and trying to move. Just got done setting up a new tower grabbed a pentium 4 EE 3.73 out of a dead tower at work, had a gallitan based P4ee laying around but no main board to support it. Friend gave me a asrock 775 board he bought for cheap as a test board, have the chip in there and running at 4.2ghz stable on air, running a 3870 x2 for graphics, not bad for gaming, just a few things i can't play unfortunately. My gaming laptop i bought in late 2004 and still use to this day (typing this on it atm) is a Pentium 4 based system, came with that pentium 4 EE I was talking about earlier, but since i no longer needed the power downgraded too a cooler chip with a much lower tdp, battery life went up like crazy, thing still runs like a champ 7 years later, also the pentium 4 EE tower i am running windows 8 on just fine, having 4gb of ram helps a lot there.
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In my previous Windows XP computer I used a couple Pentium 4 EE 3.4GHz HT CPUs socket 478 (not at the same time). Still trying to figure out what to do with them now...

Using a 4.6GHz (dynamic) i7-3930k now though... A bit of an upgrade. thumb.gif
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The P4 is what made to move to AMD for awhile all the way until conroe was released.

The P4 was probably intels worst processor and tainted the term "hyperthreading" for me until somewhat recently.
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The P4 is what made to move to AMD for awhile all the way until conroe was released.
The P4 was probably intels worst processor and tainted the term "hyperthreading" for me until somewhat recently.

Uh... Weren't they the first HT CPUs? rolleyes.gif

Also, what was so bad about them? My 3.4GHz EE ones seemed pretty fast for the time.
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Uh... Weren't they the first HT CPUs? rolleyes.gif
Also, what was so bad about them? My 3.4GHz EE ones seemed pretty fast for the time.

Yes and it brought nothing to the table IMO that's why I had a bad first impression of it being implemented.

The proc is a heat pump and intel was still using P3's in servers all the way through the P4.
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