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So a 200mhz adantage gained you 10% over the 590. Is the OP running his cards at 900? I just don't understand where this is going.

He's trying to prove that the 470's are a better price per performance "deal" over the 590...However, I don't think the 590 driver wise, has reached it's peak where the 470...Has...So, I don't consider this a "fair comparison" regardless but, currently OC'd 470's will/do beat a stock 590.
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So a 200mhz adantage gained you 10% over the 590. Is the OP running his cards at 900? I just don't understand where this is going.

The 590 has a core cluster advantage over 470's, to the tune of 4 total. Clock for clock it's going to be quite a bit faster than 470s because of that. However 470's have great OC potential, hence many people have said to stick with the 470's until next gen. We've also heard a few people say go water since it will still provide a better price/performance, and perhaps even greater performance over the 590.

The 590's do not clock well in comparison, 900 core probably isn't ever going to happen. Most would be happy with stock 580 clocks, most of those hoping, never see those clocks.

The OP asked if he should get a 590 instead of a his 470s, and since both have limited vram for the resolution he'd be using there really is no reason to "upgrade" to a 590 from what he currently has. He does have "noise" issues though, which anyone with reference 470's in SLI will tell you, however as stated before going water would increase his current performance and provide as good, if not better acoustics over a 590 with high clocks.
    
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So I plan on selling the 470's to offset the cost, and I don't currently have any type of water setup in my rig. With those factors in mind I believe the cost associated with the 590 are pretty much offset. Currently my 470's are stock clocked, I don't have the thermal headroom to OC them.
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470's go for about $150-$170 used right now, minus seller fee, and shipping you're looking at about $135-$155 profit on each card, x2 for a total of $270-$310 towards a 590.

Amazon doesn't seem to have any in stock at the typical price, all they have is the classified for nearly 1k.

2.5gb 570's would make more sense at that price/res level, with the option to add a 3rd later on.

Stock 470's are pretty meh, so a 590 would be a decent upgrade. But for the cost difference you could do a lot of other things, like go full water, and grab an ssd.
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Here's a 11173 from Wogga. That's with 280.19. 285.27 gives a good 200-300 free points. I predict that future drivers will have more free points. Here is his post.

The highest you saw was probably 730MHz because of the card's built-in PDL that throttles some apps, 3DM11 being one of them. Past that point you see steeply diminishing gains, and even some losses. These cards can be tricky when you get into the overclocking realm.

If performance were all that the OP was looking for, it would depend what the 470s would sell for. But with noise on the table, things change a bit. That's me though.
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I've been picking up 470's off OCN for $110-$150 used.

I just don't think you can get enough back out of them to warrant a switch to the 590, which is an upgrade in performance over reference 470's working in poor air flow, but a downgrade to the cheaper solution which would be water cooling, which would also fix his noise issues.

I believe he's going to have to drop at least $400 back into the 590 purchase even after selling, for that much you could go full water, cpu, gpu's, and grab an SSD.

Which would mean, the same or greater gpu power, more cpu power, and of course a better OS experience from the SSD.

But hey I think I've said my peace in this thread, anymore and I might become redundant smile.gif

GL with whatever you decide OP.
    
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2.5gb 570's would make more sense at that price/res level, with the option to add a 3rd later on.

If more manufacturers made them I'd agree, but the EVGA HD models use a 560-like cooler/pcb with 4 power phases and supposedly can't OC for beans. Plus they still cost more than even high end 6970s like the Lightning.

Personally I wouldn't recommend them unless you're putting them under water as well.
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If more manufacturers made them I'd agree, but the EVGA HD models use a 560-like cooler/pcb with 4 power phases and supposedly can't OC for beans. Plus they still cost more than even high end 6970s like the Lightning.

Personally I wouldn't recommend them unless you're putting them under water as well.

Cost too much at that point they're almost $400 each already.

I don't like the 570's either, but what else is there within a ~$800 budget?

There really is nothing to fill this niche from Nvidia, the only thing keeping the OP from going AMD is his desire to run Nvidia's 3d surround.

2gb 560 ti's would be decent, but you're just spinning your wheels in performance really since they're about the same as 470s, while being limited to two cards only. With a res like that I'd like the piece of mind knowing I could add another card down the road.
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Yeah, I think I'd probably recommend looking into 6970s at that price range tbh. Kinda weird that no one besides EVGA jumped on the higher VRAM 570 idea.

There is also that rumored GF110 560 Ti revision, which may have a 2.5GB memory variation, but who knows if that will ever see the light of day.
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