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It's called legacy not fragmentation. Sigh.
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Older phones and phone with lesser technology cannot handle the newest versions of android. Isn't it up to the company ie: motorola, lg ...etc to support their device?

Companies aren't going to support their devices forever especially with aging hardware. Apple's hardware is all similar. They have TECHNICALLY 2 devices to support. The screen size is the same on the 4 and 4s. When you adapt the software to different devices, the resolution and screen size it what hurts in my experience. Everything else is pretty much the same.
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This is the main reason I am getting an iphone. Terrible update support for my android device, I update it via custom roms but if a phone has to be rommed to make it up to date I don't want it. If I ever come back to android I will probably stick to ones google makes themselves to get constant updates.
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Older phones and phone with lesser technology cannot handle the newest versions of android. Isn't it up to the company ie: motorola, lg ...etc to support their device?
Yeah, pretty much what I was going to say.

I've never heard someone say, "Hey, iOS5 works great on my iPhone 3GS! It's fast and snappy, just like the iPhone 4!"

No, it'll be far slower and ruin any good experience you could have with the OS in general. The main reason they do it is this kind of chart. iPhone users don't want to be 'left behind', so regardless of whether or not it works well on the phone, they continue to update. Perhaps to push people into buying new phones?

I'm sure that's why companies like Motorola (although I don't see that happening as much anymore ), but especially HTC. I remember getting my first Android phone (Droid Eris), being promised an OTA update to Android 2.0, and it being pushed back, and pushed back, and pushed back. It's the reason I first rooted my phone.

tl;dr: Apple uses uniformity to promote buying new phones because it bogs down older devices; Android manufacturers just have too many releases to keep up with most of the time.
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I was about to say "But, the original iPhone can't run iOS5! Then I realized that the graph only went out to 3 years.

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Yeah, pretty much what I was going to say.

I've never heard someone say, "Hey, iOS5 works great on my iPhone 3GS! It's fast and snappy, just like the iPhone 4!"

No, it'll be far slower and ruin any good experience you could have with the OS in general. The main reason they do it is this kind of chart. iPhone users don't want to be 'left behind', so regardless of whether or not it works well on the phone, they continue to update. Perhaps to push people into buying new phones?

I'm sure that's why companies like Motorola (although I don't see that happening as much anymore ), but especially HTC. I remember getting my first Android phone (Droid Eris), being promised an OTA update to Android 2.0, and it being pushed back, and pushed back, and pushed back. It's the reason I first rooted my phone.

tl;dr: Apple uses uniformity to promote buying new phones because it bogs down older devices; Android manufacturers just have too many releases to keep up with most of the time.
That's true to an extent (especially with the 3G). 3G ran iOS4 terrible. 3GS ran it ok, but there was a noticeable performance drop. But iOS5 isn't really any slower than iOS4 - it's actually faster in some cases, like running javascript in a browser.

I think the reason you don't hear anyone say "Hey, iOS5 works great on my iPhone 3GS!" is because anyone who still had a 3GS at the time of release of iOS5 and the 4S went and renewed their contract and got a 4S.

Also, I'm glad I have the OPTION of running the latest OS, even if it runs slow. Then, I can at least choose whether I want the latest OS or a device that runs faster.
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Where is the Samsung Galaxy S i9000 on the list(the international version. not the american version) that phone still gets official updates from samsung and is as old as the iphone 4.
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no samsung galaxy?

and isn't a bit misleading to say the original iPhone/3G are on the latest iOS version when 4 runs like trash on them?
    
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Yeah, pretty much what I was going to say.

I've never heard someone say, "Hey, iOS5 works great on my iPhone 3GS! It's fast and snappy, just like the iPhone 4!"

No, it'll be far slower and ruin any good experience you could have with the OS in general. The main reason they do it is this kind of chart. iPhone users don't want to be 'left behind', so regardless of whether or not it works well on the phone, they continue to update. Perhaps to push people into buying new phones?

I'm sure that's why companies like Motorola (although I don't see that happening as much anymore ), but especially HTC. I remember getting my first Android phone (Droid Eris), being promised an OTA update to Android 2.0, and it being pushed back, and pushed back, and pushed back. It's the reason I first rooted my phone.

tl;dr: Apple uses uniformity to promote buying new phones because it bogs down older devices; Android manufacturers just have too many releases to keep up with most of the time.
Are you suggesting apple keep their products too up to date? Seems like a weird argument to make, I think they just keep good support to support customers and not getting a bad reputation for not supporting their phones.

While I understand the point you are making about newer os versions being slower on older phones that's obviously going to be the case as they are going against faster processors. It's like saying android 2.x runs better on the SG II than a htc hero so they are clearly forcing you to update.
Edited by Juganot - 10/27/11 at 11:38am
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I guess they forgot to mention the fact that an iPhone 3g is almost unusable with updates... Its pathetic, I just got my wife an HTC sensation because her 3g was freezing up. There is a reason google doesn't force update. Apple forces the update for marketing purposes, you must upgrade or your device quits working.
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I personally still have my 3gs running iOS 4. I wouldn't have upgraded to iOS 4 if it wasn't for some apps not working with 3. I'll upgrade to iOS 5 when Siri becomes available via jailbreak. Which I think I read an article today saying it will be. But I upgrade to a later OS for functionality. And honestly I have no issues with my 3gs other then facebook app that crashes all the time but that's no fault of the phone or iOS it's the app's problems.
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